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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Third, we know that God was not behind the wiping out of men, women and children who occupied the Promised Land as the Jewish people came into to settle it, nor did He tell them to do this,

According the the Bible God told them to kill every man, woman and child in Jericho.

39 posted on 02/10/2015 8:04:24 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Hugin; 21twelve; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer
According the the Bible God told them to kill every man, woman and child in Jericho.

Not only, But see 38

God can engage in terror as He did in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, whose leaders also could have assumed that no god would do that, and in the Flood. And other events. Even insurance companies need to allow for such. But to say this was wrong presumes that God had no just reason, and does not make it work out for good for those who love Good, and thus God.

God also commanded His people to engage in acts of terror, but as said, this was not some dream in the night, but in a context in which God had made it so unmistakable manifest that He was speaking to them that there could be no rational atheists (not that some would not persist in attributing them collectively to natural causes), though that did not prevent Israel from acting practically as atheists! As we do sometimes.

And as God is sovereign, He allows the devil to steal, kill and destroy, as He did in the case of Job, whose protests were answered with a series of rhetorical questions that had one conclusion, "Since I created the Heavens and earth - without your help - you need to trust Me that I know what I am doing." And God blessed the latter end of contrite Job (who prayed for his theologically challenged accusative "friends") more than the beginning, replacing that which was taken with even more and better.

Meanwhile, the devil wanted Job to curse God and die, likely by committing suicide, and which is what the devil wants all to do in seeking to exalt himself. Who as he did with Eve, basically presents himself in the person of others as a savior from an unjust God (who would not "share the wealth" with Eve, or with the devil in his occupy the throne movement). And which he does thru militant angry atheists as Dawkins etc.

Or he presents his self-serving proxy servants as saviors from from those "oppressors" who represent God's rule, esp. in the sense of benefits and position being acquired by merit - which the devil in his "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God... I will be like the most High" (Is. 14:13,14) rebelled against. And thus in God's economy what is realized under mercy and grace are just that, fostering a positive response of gratitude toward betterment, and versus such being a right due to the demonic victim-entitlement mentality, which the devil worked to seduce Eve with. But i digress.

Yet paradoxically, the charges of Divine injustice by angry militant atheists are due to the moral sense of justice which man at least initially has, out of which comes a sense of outrage at the seemingly senseless degree of suffering in the world. But to charge God, as God, with this is to presume that the one who gives life cannot take it, and omniscience, that in the light of eternity this cannot be just and that it works out for good.

(Also charges that God is self serving in requiring worship is absurd, as God needs nothing, (Acts 17:25) while making God your ultimate object of spiritual affection and allegiance and source of security is what is right and what is best for man, versus finite created beings or things.)

And it also is to presume an alternative.

God could have,


48 posted on 02/11/2015 4:54:52 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Hugin
That was written by later scribes either in Jerusalem (J/E school) or by scribes later on (D) or by priests in Babylon (P - (JEDP). They did not come by the hand of Moses. There was an exodus but it was smaller than the Biblical account, and the same archeology that has backed up much of the OT has also shown this. You can't take what you want and discard the rest.

Those kinds of verses are like what we find in the Koran. Those verses said to kill everything that breathed and to show no mercy. No god would support what we find in some Suras and no god would support killing babies that lay in their mothers arms as the Jewish people occupied the Promised Land.

54 posted on 02/11/2015 2:09:46 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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