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1 posted on 02/07/2015 2:26:36 PM PST by NYer
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There’s a lot of folks today that may be smart, but they’re not smart enough to know how little they know.


27 posted on 02/07/2015 2:57:32 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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An association does not prove causation.


28 posted on 02/07/2015 3:03:14 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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The economy is rebounding.

Unemployment is hovering around 5%.

People are getting smarter.


30 posted on 02/07/2015 3:18:00 PM PST by SpaceBar
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For a little more than 100 years we’ve had standardized IQ tests, and over those 100 years there has been a consistent, linear increase in IQ scores, on the order of 3 points per decade.

I reject the premise.

IQ has been verboten as a selection criteria ever since it was determined that the IQ of the average black person is 85.

The APA used to define an IQ of 85 as borderline retarded, but they also recanted for the same reason.

Bottom line, we can't acknowledge IQ anymore because the average black person has a low IQ.

32 posted on 02/07/2015 3:26:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (One who is merciful to those who are heartless will end up being heartless to those who are merciful)
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If IQs are rising (people are getting smarter), where are all the new greats works of art, literature, music, etc. In my view those areas are a lot worse than they used to be. Is anybody trying to say modern classical composers are as good or better than Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, and a bunch of others from those eras? To be terse, they’re not nearly as good.


33 posted on 02/07/2015 3:27:10 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Rising IQs or rather people with advanced collage degrees does not equate wisdom or common sense.


38 posted on 02/07/2015 3:38:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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An IQ test is just a measure of how someone is going to answer the questions put into it.

It is very obvious that when it comes to common sense, and survival that that the population has gone over a cliff in terms of intelligence. People are so much stupider that they cannot survive without the government taking care of them.

So when it comes to the most important intelligence and IQ test is a worthless piece of crap!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 02/07/2015 3:43:15 PM PST by Revel
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The title rather should say “ the rising of the influence of the main stream media, Hollywood, indoctrination of liberalism, commieism, feminism, atheism, Darwinism in public schools and institutions is the decline of faith “ .


42 posted on 02/07/2015 3:43:26 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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I think IQ tests can be very accurate. The problem is so many in academia are just not honest. The tests are reliable but the testers are not.

As near as I can recall, every scientific paper which purports to show that gun control works has been found out to be fraudulent or at least slanted.

I have been a fan of Jeopardy since the host was Art Fleming. I still watch it but am getting suspicious that they are beginning to “game” the results. Maybe not out and out cheating but asking questions (answers) which favor certain contestants.


48 posted on 02/07/2015 3:53:30 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Rising IQs, compared to what!? Absolutely meaningless.


50 posted on 02/07/2015 4:10:15 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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Here is the flip side. The IQ crowd measures only rational straight line thought. But faith, i.e the ability to believe, is another form of high human intelligence, and equally as valid. The two are not mutually exclusive. The only problem is academic types go ape shit when you tell them this.


52 posted on 02/07/2015 4:26:38 PM PST by AdaGray
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“Knowledge puffeth” alert.


53 posted on 02/07/2015 4:29:14 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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Certainly explains why Newton was such a dullard and non believer.


54 posted on 02/07/2015 4:34:11 PM PST by jwalsh07 (E)
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Any casual reading of a newspaper decades or longer show a marked decrease in intelligent writing.


55 posted on 02/07/2015 4:36:22 PM PST by Raycpa
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IQ’s don’t “rise” - the instruments are standardized so that the average score always is set at 100 points and the standard deviation at 15 to 20 points depending on the test - every now and then when the scores do stray too far from these norms the test is recalibrated to comply with the standard - whatever marginal increase in scores which might have taken place over the last few decades is probably attributable to increased schooling and the spread of mass communication which increased people’s exposure to information and basic intellectual skills like arithmetic - it’s virtually impossible to come up with test questions which don’t have some loading on common knowledge and the 3 R’s.......


56 posted on 02/07/2015 4:40:21 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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The scores go up when there are no Christians around to observe the cheating.

Testers inflate the scores to get rewarded with higher salaries.

57 posted on 02/07/2015 4:45:17 PM PST by donna (Gov. Mike Huckabee beat the Clinton machine in Arkansas. He can do it again.)
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The flynn effect is a natural consequence of the dispersion of social strata. Many of the genes responsible for intelligence are dominant. Do the math.

The down side is that accompanying the increase of IQs is a disastrous decrease in the mean deviation.


58 posted on 02/07/2015 4:58:15 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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I'm not concerned about the pretensions of the irreligious.

We have Augustine.

59 posted on 02/07/2015 5:05:03 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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Try reading any randomly-selected page of the book “Meditations” by Marcus Aurelius, emperor of Ancient Rome, and you’ll see exactly what has happened to IQs.


61 posted on 02/07/2015 5:19:09 PM PST by The Duke
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“his has made us less receptive to God revealed in nature and in scripture. “

Not at all true. It was my engineering and science background that drove me to an understanding and acceptance of the grandeur of God’s handiwork


62 posted on 02/07/2015 5:46:05 PM PST by Nifster
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