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To: terycarl

“Let me try to get this straight....for 1,600 years ALL Christans....billions of them...believed in transubstantiation”

History simply doesn’t support that statement. There were varying views over the centuries, but it wasn’t until the 9th century that Paschasius Radbertus first formulated the doctrine of transubstantiation. That sparked an ongoing debate that wasn’t settled until the Lateran Council of 1215. According to Duns Scotus, transubstantiation was not an article of faith before the thirteenth century.


135 posted on 02/05/2015 7:48:24 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

Your comment: “According to Duns Scotus, transubstantiation was not an article of faith before the thirteenth century.”
That is not correct. The Catholic Church has often after time has documented the teachings and reaffirmed them.

The Apostles believed and taught the Real Presence of Jesus and is contained in the Bible:

1st Corinthians, 11:23-26. “For I received from the Lord what I shall deliver to you.”

23* For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you,k that the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread, 24and, after he had given thanks, broke it and said, “This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 25In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.”l 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.

27Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord.


146 posted on 02/05/2015 8:31:22 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: .45 Long Colt
. According to Duns Scotus, transubstantiation was not an article of faith before the thirteenth century.

Yeah right...the Apostles thought that Christ was kidding when He said "THIS IS MY BODY"...The true presence of Christ in the Eucharist was understood from the very beginning...13th century???, you have to be kidding...

160 posted on 02/05/2015 9:05:31 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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