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To: CynicalBear

What part do you disagree with? That Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity? Or that Mary was His mother?

This doctrine was decided at the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD to combat the heresy of Nestorianism which said that Christ was 2 distinct persons and that Mary was the bearer of Christ the man, not Christ the 2nd person of the Trinity. The doctrine was about Him, not her. By clarifying that Mary carried the Second Person of the Trinity in her womb, it said that Christ cannot be divided into 2 persons, but is one person only.

For Scripture references about Christ being God, see the Gospel of St. John. “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.”


97 posted on 02/03/2015 5:11:14 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: nanetteclaret

Please show where the Holy Spirit inspired any of the writers of scripture to describe Mary as the “mother of God”. If He didn’t do that I will understand that He did not for a reason.


98 posted on 02/03/2015 5:14:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: nanetteclaret
This doctrine was decided at the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD to combat the heresy of Nestorianism which said that Christ was 2 distinct persons and that Mary was the bearer of Christ the man, not Christ the 2nd person of the Trinity.

Actually Nestorius determined there were two natures, not persons...

The doctrine was about Him, not her. By clarifying that Mary carried the Second Person of the Trinity in her womb, it said that Christ cannot be divided into 2 persons, but is one person only.

That's not really accurate...The definition was finished up at Chalcedon and it was determined that Jesus had two natures, human and divine which were inseparable...

Nestorius believed that those two natures were separable and therefore Mary was not the mother of the divine nature...

Your religion has made the doctrine ALL about Mary since that dicision allows your religion (in its mind) to call Mary the mother of God...The Catholic glory goes to Mary...No honest person can deny that...It's ALL about Mary...

135 posted on 02/03/2015 11:54:41 PM PST by Iscool
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