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To: CynicalBear

“Yeah, yeah, and we are all living in the new earth and the new heaven. Satan is bound in hell and all unbelievers with him. NOT. Oh, there is NO historical evidence that Nero ever banished anyone to Patmos. Preterists don’t know history or scripture.”

First of all, you have no clue as to what that phrase “heaven and earth” represents, so of course you have no idea that His kingdom has already come! Christ said the kingdom of heaven was “at hand” when He walked the earth. It was ushered in in 70 AD. Your refusal to understand this does not constitute failure on my part to explain it.

Secondly, there is, in fact, a Syrian version of Revelation that does state unequivocally that John was exiled to Patmos by Nero:

THE SYRIAC VERSION OF THE APOCALYPSE
(Philoxenian Version)

Murdock Syriac (5th Century)

“The Revelation, which was made by God to John the Evangelist, in the island of Patmos, to which he was banished by Nero the Emperor.”

Etheridge Syriac (5th Century)

THE REVELATION WHICH WAS MADE UNTO JUHANON THE EVANGELIST, FROM ALOHA, IN PATHAMON THE ISLAND, WHITHER HE HAD BEEN CAST BY NERO CAESAR.

http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1897_gwynn_syriac-apocalypse.html

The 5th Century Syriac version of the apocalypse tells us precisely who put John on Patmos!

Your ignorance about a “lack of evidence” is not proof that such evidence does not exist: only that you’ve never bothered to look for it.


143 posted on 01/31/2015 7:29:06 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray
Preterists run afoul of both scripture and history. One simple one would be where Paul established the church in Ephesus in the mid to late 50s AD. And in 61AD wrote to them commending their faith. Yet Preterists would have us believe that a short 7 years later Christ would say to them that they have "left their first love" and "have fallen" and that He will remove their "lampstand" unless they repent.

You claim it was Nero who banished John to Patmos? Nero had both Peter and Paul executed yet Preterists would have us believe that he only exiled John to Patmos. Preposterous.

In A.D. 60, Laodicea had been almost entirely destroyed by an earthquake. Yet Preterists would have us believe that, as stated in Revelation 3:17, they had in a short 8 years considered themselves "rich and in need of nothing".

One could go on and on with the discrepancies Preterists have with both scripture and history. Preterism is a false teaching and considered "another gospel" and should be considered accursed as Paul said.

149 posted on 02/01/2015 8:06:01 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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