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To: caww
I notice that you haven't presented a single fact "debunking" the Shroud of Turin, and I don't expect you to come up with a valid argument anytime soon.

For anyone interested in investigating the science behind the Shroud, I recommend this Shroud web site.

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Regarding "creepy" relics...

When my father died, I kissed his dead body.

Was that wrong? Was I worshiping him?

Was his body "junk"? At what point would it become junk?

Were Elisha's bones junk?

Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man's body into Elisha's tomb. When the body touched Elisha's bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet.
Regardless of our feelings about "creepiness" and "yuckiness," God sometimes chooses to associate the remains of holy people with miracles.

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150 posted on 01/30/2015 6:26:16 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Of course I'm not going to even attempt to debate about your project....I've already done enough research on it to realize that no matter what is evidenced it's a matter of what an individual..."Wants to believe"...rather than the evidence.

Of course it's creepy when catholic people are digging up dead corpses...dismembering them... and then storing and shipping various body parts to their churches for display and kneeling and bowing before them.....that's Jeffrey Dalmer stuff going on there!

Kissing a family member who dies in your arms is hardly comparable and just nonsense... there is no comparison apart from a deranged understanding of what a dead copse is.......though I can see why catholics make that comparison because they do have to find some reason why your church digs these bodies up after they've been buried and dismembers them for display......and further requiring their Priests to bow and kiss these body parts.....it goes against the natural revulsion God designed us with in every way.....bad enough catholics pray to departed saints let alone dig their bodies up in this manner.

God has made it very, and distinctly, clear we are not to pray to the dead .....catholicism has deliberately ignored God in this manner...and for that have gone so far as to pray to and bow before these corpses....sin will always escalate to that which is increasingly more sinful. ...and in catholicism's case with these dead bodies throughout your churches have given every "appearance" of a death cult. You cannot proclaim catholicism as Christian when deliberately making your churches into something Jesus never ever would have done nor stood for...never!

John 14:6 .....Jesus said.... “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Isaiah 8:19:....."should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?"

Deut 18:10-11: ..."Let no one be found among you who.... consults the dead."

1 Timothy 2:5 ..."For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Matthew 22:32....‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.”

153 posted on 01/30/2015 7:21:27 PM PST by caww
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