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To: Iscool
Do you think Jesus now can be tempted??? If he has a human nature, he can...God can not be tempted...Jesus could only be tempted when he was in the flesh...Jesus no longer has that human nature...

We are capable of being tempted because we do not see God as he is, but only by analogy, through our various experiences in this life.

Jesus was tempted, but there was never any danger that he would sin because he could not be deceived. That's the whole point of his temptations: He was tempted like Adam, at the very beginning of his public ministry, but unlike Adam, Jesus did not sin. Jesus' temptations are NOT about his being WEAK, but about his TRIUMPHING over sin.

Jesus, in heaven, remains both God and man. He cannot sin because he sees God as he is, not, as we do "as in a glass, darkly," as St. Paul says.

You seem to be a Manichean or some other form of Gnostic: "Spirit is good, the body is bad," or "Divine is good, human is evil."

Gnosticism is a perennial distortion of Christianity.

592 posted on 01/25/2015 9:03:02 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

...”Gnostic-ism is a perennial distortion of Christianity”....

So is catholic-ism.


594 posted on 01/25/2015 9:08:03 PM PST by caww
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To: Arthur McGowan
>>Gnosticism is a perennial distortion of Christianity.<<

As is Catholicism. See here for an example.

659 posted on 01/26/2015 8:18:00 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Jesus, in heaven, remains both God and man. He cannot sin because he sees God as he is, not, as we do "as in a glass, darkly," as St. Paul says.

Jesus can no more see God than I or you can see our souls...God is invisible...And here's something else for you...The glorified Jesus IS God...Jesus can not sin because he is God...

We are capable of being tempted because we do not see God as he is, but only by analogy, through our various experiences in this life.

Wrong on 2 counts...We are capable of being tempted and are tempted and we do sin because of our human nature...The Apostle Paul spent some time with the glorified Jesus Christ and yet he sinned...

And 2...We may not see God but we see results of God and God working in our lives...We are indwelt with God and we are in God...

Jesus, in heaven, remains both God and man.

Again, we are made in God's image...He is not made in our image...God does not have a human nature, else he would be susceptable to sin...And when we are ascended to heaven, we will not have a human nature...

The reason we can have a relationship with Jesus is because he is the physical, visible part of the Godhead...We could have a wrestling match with him if he so desired...There is no reason for God to have a human nature...

You seem to be a Manichean or some other form of Gnostic: "Spirit is good, the body is bad," or "Divine is good, human is evil."

I don't know what Manicheus said, but I know what God says...

Rom_6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Eph_4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Col_3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

Rom_7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

Perhaps that scripture means nothing to you...

Was there some guy named Manicheus or something??? You guys have got a lable for everything...If you learn all the labels and Catholic words, you are an intellectual or an expert???

If your religion would have sent you off to a bible school somewhere instead of a seminary where you needed to learn all that stuff, you'd have been far better off...

Our bodies are junk...We've got bad blood...The minute we are born, our bodies start dying...They hurt, a lot... And some of our bodies are downright ugly...They go into the ground and rot...At this time, God did not chose a perfect vessel to house us in...

Php_3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

671 posted on 01/26/2015 8:50:31 AM PST by Iscool
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