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To: CynicalBear; metmom

I am not evading the issue. The Holy Spirit does not refer to Mary as “mother of God.” I know that. Scripture refers to Mary as the mother of Jesus. My question is whether you agree that Mary is the mother of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. A question which neither of you seems willing to answer. I think I know why. To disagree would be saying that Jesus is not our Lord and Savior. To agree would mean that Mary is the mother of Jesus, our Lord and Savior, God the Son, the Word made flesh, the Messiah (God with us). You have both made it clear that you do not believe that. This is a conundrum for me. I do not understand how Jesus, the son of Mary in human form, can be separated from Jesus, the Son of God. Let me ask this. Do you believe that God the Son, at the behest of His Father, allowed Himself to be breathed into a young girl by the Holy Spirit, so that he could lower Himself to become human in form, given the name Jesus, and suffer and die on a cross to redeem us from our sins? How difficult is that to believe? Is it that much more difficult to believe that God the Son, as Jesus, would have that girl as His mother while on earth?


472 posted on 01/25/2015 4:29:30 PM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265; metmom
>>A question which neither of you seems willing to answer. I think I know why. To disagree would be saying that Jesus is not our Lord and Savior. To agree would mean that Mary is the mother of Jesus, our Lord and Savior, God the Son, the Word made flesh, the Messiah (God with us).<<

None of which makes Mary the "mother of God". I think you have twisted and turned this issue about enough. The term "mother of God" is deceitful and attempts to conjure up a wrong image. It was NOT used by the Holy Spirit and I would suggest you not second guess His word choices.

475 posted on 01/25/2015 4:37:20 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: rwa265; CynicalBear
You have both made it clear that you do not believe that.

That is patently not true and our posts demonstrate that.

What neither one of us is doing is jumping through the hoops you are demanding knowing that when Catholics do that, it's for the purpose of labeling and pigeon holing people.

Catholics do love their labels.

I am not performing on demand to get the usual smarmy Catholic response of *Good girl. Keep it up and you'll soon be a Catholic like me*.

The term *God the Son* appears no where in Scripture either.

484 posted on 01/25/2015 4:53:25 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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