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To: rwa265
Dude!!! Reading comprehension is paramount here. You reference post 1717 which includes your statement.

>>I asked: “So how can it be that Mary did not conceive and give birth to the Second person of the Trinity”?<<

Conceive - to think of or create, to cause to begin.

My response was that she could NOT have conceived "caused to begin" the third person of the trinity because the third person of the trinity preceded Mary. That does NOT indicate that Jesus was not the third person of the trinity. The human and divine natures are united yet Mary could not have possibly "conceived" "caused to begin" the third person of the trinity.

So, NO, I did NOT say Jesus was not the third person of the trinity.

1,850 posted on 02/01/2015 8:31:43 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

So, NO, I did NOT say Jesus was not the third person of the trinity.


I agree that you did not say Jesus was not the third person of the Trinity. We were discussing the second person of the Trinity.

Regardless of who wrote what, do you agree that the Son of God is the second person of the Trinity?

Because that is the central point.

The Angel Gabriel said to Mary (from KJV): “thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.”

The word ‘conceive’ in this sense means “to become pregnant.”

That is why Mary said: “How shall this be, seeing I know not a man”?

And the angel responded: “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”

Is “that holy thing which shall be born of” Mary and “shall be called the Son of God” the same God that is the second person of the Trinity?


1,851 posted on 02/01/2015 11:36:33 AM PST by rwa265
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