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To: terycarl; Elsie
The office of the Pope has existed for 2,015 years and 30 days so their average isn't that bad.

LOLOLOL!!! How funny...you're getting down to the exact number of days this nonexistent early Papacy has been around? You know your calculation is off by at least several centuries, right??? Even IF Peter started the line of Popes of Rome (and he didn't), you're off by nearly five decades. At least admit that, won't you?

1,807 posted on 01/30/2015 10:40:01 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; terycarl; Elsie
The title "pope" for a single head of the Catholic Church didn't even exist until the 11th century.

The word pope derives from Greek πάππας meaning "Father". In the early centuries of Christianity, this title was applied, especially in the east, to all bishops and other senior clergy, and later became reserved in the west to the Bishop of Rome, a reservation made official only in the 11th century." [Greer, Thomas H.; Gavin Lewis (2004). A Brief History of the Western World. Cengage Learning. p. 172. ISBN 9780534642365.]

Even the Catholic encyclopedia admits such. The most noteworthy of the titles are Papa, Summus Pontifex, Pontifex Maximus, Servus servorum Dei. The title pope (papa) was, as has been stated, at one time employed with far more latitude. In the East it has always been used to designate simple priests. In the Western Church, however, it seems from the beginning to have been restricted to bishops (Tertullian, On Modesty 13). It was apparently in the fourth century that it began to become a distinctive title of the Roman Pontiff. Pope Siricius (d. 398) seems so to use it (Ep. vi in P.L., XIII, 1164), and Ennodius of Pavia (d. 473) employs it still more clearly in this sense in a letter to Pope Symmachus (P.L., LXIII, 69). Yet as late as the seventh century St. Gall (d. 640) addresses Desiderius of Cahors as papa (P.L., LXXXVII, 265). Gregory VII (1073-1085) finally prescribed that it should be confined to the successors of Peter. [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12260a.htm#V]

Not until the eleventh century was the title "pope" restricted to a single individual. This whole "single pope" from Peter on is pure fallacy.

1,830 posted on 01/31/2015 5:53:21 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: boatbums
Even IF Peter started the line of Popes of Rome (and he didn't), you're off by nearly five decades. At least admit that, won't you?
1,838 posted on 01/31/2015 9:07:42 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: boatbums
Even IF Peter started the line of Popes of Rome (and he didn't), you're off by nearly five decades. At least admit that, won't you?

Sure he did, even wikipedia will tell you that...and of course I used 2,015 years and 30 days simply because it was Januaty 30, 2015.....get a sense of humor.....and let's say I was off by 5 decades...that's 50 years...big deal, I'll take that.

1,844 posted on 01/31/2015 9:36:17 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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