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To: Heart-Rest; metmom; CynicalBear
The teachings of those false teachers Peter spoke about, were obviously based on their own private (wrong) interpretation of the scriptures, and they obviously disagreed with the true teachings of the Church, and Peter blasted them for it in that letter (2 Peter), and plainly told his readers to listen rather to the Church's teachers (like himself) instead.

You must be referring to the false teachers such as the one who was on EWTN(?) recently who tried to pull a fast one (he apparently succeeded with Catholic followers) by wresting the scriptures here:

Mat 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

by claiming that THAT verse was fulfilled by this verse:

Mat 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.

And this one...

Mar 15:23 And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not.

But we can see in those scriptures that not only did Jesus not drink the wine (vinegar), he certainly wasn't sharing it with anyone as Mat. 26:29 tells us Jesus will do at some time...But it hasn't happened yet...

And then this priest went into this half hour long spiel about the wine and cup and the Jewish passover which had absolutely nothing to do with some Roman soldiers trying to get Jesus to drink some vinegar while he was dying on the Cross... That deceiving Catholic priest is nuttier than a fruitcake...Deceiving Catholics and trying to deceive the rest of us by perverting the scriptures...

Those people posing as pastors of the church who wear the backwards collars are the ones you have to watch out for...

1,746 posted on 01/30/2015 12:45:37 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool; Heart-Rest; metmom

I was stunned when I listened to that fraud. And that was a Catholic “teacher” who he sent me to listen to. I couldn’t believe the guys lack of knowledge about what scripture. Those are the kinds of leaders Catholics look to for their “interpretation” mind you. And then I was told that being at the cross is the same as being on the cross.


1,748 posted on 01/30/2015 12:54:51 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Iscool
"Mat 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. by claiming that THAT verse was fulfilled by this verse: Mat 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink. And this one... Mar 15:23 And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not."

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No, it was fulfilled in this text:

After this Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfil the scripture), “I thirst.”  A bowl full of vinegar stood there; so they put a sponge full of the vinegar on hyssop and held it to his mouth.    When Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished”; and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
John 19:28-30
Jesus was offered wine twice on the cross.    One time He rejected it, and one time He received it.    (See also Matthew 27:34 & Matthew 27:48.)
1,801 posted on 01/30/2015 8:50:35 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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