Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

Catholic Exchange ^ | JULY 26, 2014 | Tim Staples

[Faith Presses On]

So what about the Prophet Mohammed in Islam?

Is he worshipped by Muslims, who as we know are proud of their form of “monotheism”? I believe they do, although they would of course deny it.

A god doesn’t have to be eternal, either. Many mythic gods haven’t been. Idolatry can involve worship of just about anyone or anything. When what we owe to God alone is given to anyone or anyone else, that is a form of worship, and idolatry, and making that person or thing an idol or god. And worship can also involve treating someone or something besides God as a god, and giving that person or thing what God Himself wouldn’t ask for, such as the sacrifice of children to Baal.

[Elsie]

That's right. She had the right blood lines and lived in the right time and place for prophecy to be fulfilled.

WHAT??

The blood of RAHAB was in there... somewhere!

[metmom]

You have both made it clear that you do not believe that.

That is patently not true and our posts demonstrate that.

What neither one of us is doing is jumping through the hoops you are demanding knowing that when Catholics do that, it's for the purpose of labeling and pigeon holing people.

Catholics do love their labels.

I am not performing on demand to get the usual smarmy Catholic response of *Good girl. Keep it up and you'll soon be a Catholic like me*.

The term *God the Son* appears no where in Scripture either.

[Elsie]

Have an update:

Jesus was walking along one day, when He came upon a group of people surrounding a lady of ill repute. It was obvious that the crowd was preparing to stone her, so Jesus made His now-famous statement, “Let the person who has no sin cast the first stone.”

The crowd was shamed and one by one began to turn away. All of a sudden, a lovely little woman made her way through the crowd. Finally getting to the front, she tossed a pebble towards the woman.

Jesus looks over and says, “I really hate it when you do that, Mom.”

[MamaB]

Sorry, but we do not need Mary to get to Jesus.. We can pray to Him on our own.

[Elsie]

The Bible is one long continuing revelation and nothing in the Bible definitively states nor can be construed to imply that revelation will end.

So; when "Word comes from 'Heaven'" you'll be ready to receive!

(This should prove quite interesting in the future!)

[Elsie]

The teacher’s told our Social Studies class that all prior versions of the bible were in error.

Of COURSE they are ;^)

[MamaB]

The Bible says all have sinned. He did not exempt Mary. Even she admitted she needed a Savior.

[Elsie]

I am not exactly sure what you mean by your comment,

I can see why!

THIS ---> We've NO problem with the stuff you guys have come up with (so far) that is NOT found in the Bible. <--- is SURELY not what I meant to post!

(The words are spelled write though!)

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Let's try again...

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We've NO problem with the stuff you guys have come up with (so far) that is found in the Bible.

We've DO have a problem with the stuff you guys have come up with that is NOT found in the Bible.

[Elsie]

Yes, Mary and Joseph were faithful Jews, so they made the offering in accordance with the law; do you believe that childbirth really makes the woman impure?

Ask GOD!

HE made the rules!!!

[caww]

Pretty bold of you to make such claims...when I in fact said nothing about his body.

I will stand on that He arose and changed everything for it..you may believe what you want, and make issues where you want...but until you understand the ressurection power and what that means entire...you will not understand we serve a risen Christ, who sits at the right hand of God on our behalf.

[Elsie]

Once again, the title "Mother of God" has NEVER meant that Mary is the origin of the eternal, Triune God.

FINALLY!

That's what we've been saying all along; but you guys hold on to your precious phrases like a snapping turtle to a stick!

[Iscool]

Once again, the title "Mother of God" has NEVER meant that Mary is the origin of the eternal, Triune God.

But that's what it SAYS.

Then why say it...Unless it's meant to deceive???

[don-o]

I'll stick with agreeing with the Holy Spirit in what He inspired in Scripture: *Mary, the mother of Jesus*.

Does the Holy Spirit want uncertainty about whether Jesus is God?

Let me try this question on you. Asked another and got no answer. Do you agree or disagree with Nestorius?

[caww]

That was not unexpected...if you note, which I’m sure you have in the past, it generally comes to such accusations and such.

I never mentioned a word about His body...silly how they jump to conclusions, but not unusual....some are looking for a platform rather than the truth.

[Elsie]

>>Then Angels are sinless...<<

He's 2/3's right...

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Revelation 12:4 English Standard Version (ESV)
His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.

[metmom]

Exactly.....

[metmom]

It all depends on who’s doing the saying.

[Elsie]

The Angels have free will, but, as purely spiritual beings, exist outside of time.

Says WHO???