Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
lol...seems like it, doesn’t it...
They certainly WERE...up until the time that Christ established His church...Peter, upon this rock...that scene, then they were members of His new church. Actually, they were Christians as followers of Christ and soon became known as Catholics....but they were Catholics from the beginning.
Finally, you've got it!
Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin.
The Wright Brothers flew for the first time at Kitty Hawk in 1903.
The U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1789.
Cleveland is a city in Ohio.
Want more examples?
For non Catholics it's not a big issue...It doesn't change the fact that ALL of the living creation commits sin...
For Catholics on the other hand, the issue is huge since believing one of your two positions can eliminate Mary being the mother of God, being sinless and the whole shebang...
The scriptures of God gives the answer...You guys aren't big on scripture...You get your interpretation of scripture from your 'Church' and your 'Church' doesn't even comment on most of the scriptures while telling you not to go outside of what your religion teaches...
So you guys are left in the dark concerning what God has to say to his church...
When we pull up scripture to explain these things, you are taught to say, 'It's only your opinion'...
That's why, My tiny little brain does not have the answers.
That is in direct contradiction to Scripture. When the women went to Jesus's tomb and found His body to be missing, they were told by the angel "He is not here, He is risen". Not just His Spirit, but His body was no longer in the tomb. Jesus had Thomas touch the wounds in His hands and feet. Jesus appeared to men over a period of 40 days after His resurrection. The Bible is quite clear that Jesus was resurrected physically.
OK...thanks...
You say that as though it were something you disagree with. But you couldn't possibly disagree with it:
Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin.
The Wright Brothers flew for the first time at Kitty Hawk in 1903.
The U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1789.
Cleveland is a city in Ohio.
Want more examples?
That's absolutely FALSE teaching!
Jesus never gave up his divinity. He is totally and completely God. If you insist on putting human limits on how God exists because you cannot commit to the concept of Trinity on faith, you will never get it.
God did die, and he did not die. Impossible to human logic, but with God all things are possible.
Love,
O2
We have no idea of how the trinatarian nature of God works. He, of course, makes the rules and just how He does things is far above our pay grade.
Actually, the names of the brothers of Jesus are specified in at least 2 of the Gospels. It also mentions His sisters, though doesn't mention them by name.
Jesus was holding bread and wine and both are edible...He transubsstantiated them into His Body and Blood and told us what He was doing and instructed us to "DO THIS"...we do.
Yeah, soon, like the third or fourth century soon.
May I present more Scripture to you?
"But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." (Romans 8:11 KJV)
The Scripture clearly states that Christ was raised up from the dead.
>> “There is a story that St. Augustine was walking on the beach contemplating the mystery of the Trinity...” <<
And you wish to raise your little catholic story to the level of scripture?
I do not wish in any way to raise this little story to the level of scripture. It is an allegory that may or may not have happened and is used to illustrate the nonsense of men. We see it on this forum all the time. People are absolutely certain they have answers that cannot possibly be known to our tiny little brains.
IF the bread and the wine were to be transformed into the literal body and blood of Christ, then it follows that this would occur when anyone observed Communion. There was never anything in Scripture to indicate that the bread and wine had to be specially blessed by a priest or go through some special ritual - Jesus just said, "do this in remembrance of me". So the argument that anyone taking Communion outside of the Catholic Church would not receive the true "body and blood of Christ" is specious at best.
no it isn't, you were 2nd amendment mama from the moment of your conception way back when....Just because your parents didn't name you until after your physical birth changes nothing....you were who you are from conception.....so is the Catholic church.....same body, new name!
It is original sin which causes us to sin, so without that Mary was able to lead a sinless life.
No, it is not in the bible. But neither is the concept of sola scriptura.
Man can only live 'by every word that comes from the mouth of God.' Not every one of those words is in the bible. Some were never written, but were remembered and passed down. If you do not accept that there could be some traditions that are from God but extra-biblical, then you are not really following God's teaching.
What those traditions are is debatable, but the fact that not 'every word' is in the bible is not.
Love,
O2
Finally, you've got it!
LOL we get the Marian apologetic. IMO it's not the "truth" part that sends us into fits of laughter, so much as the Catholic claims that any of it is "scriptural".
I must acknowledge that there is no explicit verse that directly settles this issue. At the same time, I don’t think that an explicit verse is necessary to prove that something is scriptural. I think that if a doctrine is implied in Scripture or logically follows from what we find in Scripture, and if there is nothing in Scripture that directly refutes it, then that belief can be considered scriptural.
-- from the thread In Defense of the Immaculate Conception: Part 2
Oh really?
Acts 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Acts 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:
1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Now, if you believe that God died and another part of God raised Him from the dead then you believe that the Godhead can be separated. Is that what the Catholic Church teaches? That there are three Gods like the Mormons?
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