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To: Steelfish

The spokesman for the diocese, Stephan Kronenburg, said Father Paul’s simplistic view of history was “not compatible
with the Christian message of love, kindness and inclusion”.

If this current view of the Church in regards to Islam was held one thousand years ago, the Church would not exist in Europe today. It’s that simple.


4 posted on 01/22/2015 8:11:18 PM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

Point well made.


5 posted on 01/22/2015 8:12:10 PM PST by Steelfish
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"If this current view of the Church in regards to Islam was held one thousand years ago, the Church would not exist in Europe today. It’s that simple. -pleasenotcalifornia

Exactly. With modern communication capabilities, literacy at historic levels, and documented history available at our fingertips on demand, there is absolutely no excuse for repeating the mistakes of Byzantium turning the other cheek for centuries against Islamic oppression before finally recognizing and addressing the threat of Islamic hegemony with the first of the crusades.

"Turning the other cheek" shall hold no legitimacy in context of this established history.

8 posted on 01/22/2015 9:20:32 PM PST by wtd
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To: pleasenotcalifornia
"Father Paul’s simplistic view of history was “not compatible with the Christian message of love, kindness and inclusion”.

Inclusion? Where did he get the idea that Christianity was "inclusive"? Jesus said Christianity would be completely divisive. That son would turn against father, daughter from mother, sister from sister. "I come not to bring peace but the sword". What about "be not unequally yoked with unbelievers" or "what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness"

15 posted on 01/23/2015 4:51:39 AM PST by circlecity
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