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To: Arthur McGowan

So then tell us the purpose of posting those links to your so called saints.


34 posted on 01/21/2015 5:32:36 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

I accept your apology for attributing that stupid belief to me.

The value of reading the lives of saints is that saints give evidence that God’s grace is capable of making people into truly holy people, filled with charity.

“Reformed” theology, on the other hand, holds that grace does nothing to us. It does not make us holy. All that happens is that God LIES about us to himself, and lets us into heaven.

This is the fundamental reason Protestantism denies the ability of the saints to intercede for us: Protestantism denies that grace actually transforms people, filling them with charity—which is the form of God.

Even more fundamentally, Protestantism does not take the Incarnation seriously. To Protestants, God’s revelation is primarily verbal. What Jesus left behind in the world is primarily words, written down. Our salvation consists of God’s pronouncing words over us, fictitious words judging us as “justified.”

The Catholic Church teaches, on the other hand, that the Word became Flesh. His primordial “legacy” to us is his BODY on earth, the Church. In the Church, the written word came to be. The Church, through the Sacraments, makes Christ still present on earth, and their purpose is to cause REAL transformation, divinizing us, by making us participants in the divine nature—charity—the very form of God.

Protestantism does not take the Incarnation seriously. It does not believe in REAL effects of the Incarnation. It does not believe that the Incarnation transforms US. Protestantism is about God pretending that we are no longer sinners, even though all our actions are sins.

This is why so many Protestants deride the saints as “dead people.” Really? There is no eternal life?


91 posted on 01/21/2015 6:55:09 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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