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To: CynicalBear
On the other hand Jesus said: Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. No Catholic Church needed.

In fact, no church needed at all. In other words, you are arguing that Jesus was lying when he said he was going to found a "church."

130 posted on 01/21/2015 8:11:00 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan


In fact, no church needed at all. In other words, you are arguing that Jesus was lying when he said he was going to found a “church.”

Nah. He said He was founding a gathering. Not a church.


136 posted on 01/21/2015 8:23:52 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
In other words, you are arguing that Jesus was lying when he said he was going to found a "church."

Noooo. But you are deceived into believing He meant ONLY the RCC founded on Peter as RCC's first pope.
138 posted on 01/21/2015 8:29:06 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Arthur McGowan
>>In other words, you are arguing that Jesus was lying when he said he was going to found a "church."<<

That is correct. Christ founded an ekklesia, those called out by God. The concept of the "church" as the Catholic Church teaches is not found in scripture.

141 posted on 01/21/2015 8:32:57 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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