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Pagan Saints
The Cripplegate ^ | July 19,2012 | Nathan Busenitz

Posted on 01/21/2015 4:47:04 PM PST by RnMomof7

As a church history professor, I am sometimes asked how certain practices developed in church history. For example: When did the Roman Catholic (and Eastern Orthodox) emphasis on praying to saints and venerating relics and icons begin?

A somewhat obscure, but extremely helpful, book by John Calvin answers that question directly.

In his work, A Treatise on Relics, Calvin utilizes his extensive knowledge of church history to demonstrate that prayers to the saints, prayers for the dead, the veneration of relics, the lighting of candles (in homage to the saints), and the veneration of icons are all rooted in Roman paganism. Such practices infiltrated the Christian church after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the fourth century.

Here is an excerpt from Calvin’s work that summarizes his thesis:

Hero-worship is innate to human nature, and it is founded on some of our noblest feelings, — gratitude, love, and admiration, — but which, like all other feelings, when uncontrolled by principle and reason, may easily degenerate into the wildest exaggerations, and lead to most dangerous consequences. It was by such an exaggeration of these noble feelings that [Roman] Paganism filled the Olympus with gods and demigods, — elevating to this rank men who have often deserved the gratitude of their fellow-creatures, by some signal services rendered to the community, or their admiration, by having performed some deeds which required a more than usual degree of mental and physical powers.

The same cause obtained for the Christian martyrs the gratitude and admiration of their fellow-Christians, and finally converted them into a kind of demigods. This was more particularly the case when the church began to be corrupted by her compromise with Paganism [during the fourth and fifth-centuries], which having been baptized without being converted, rapidly introduced into the Christian church, not only many of its rites and ceremonies, but even its polytheism, with this difference, that the divinities of Greece and Rome were replaced by Christian saints, many of whom received the offices of their Pagan predecessors.

The church in the beginning tolerated these abuses, as a temporary evil, but was afterwards unable to remove them; and they became so strong, particularly during the prevailing ignorance of the middle ages, that the church ended up legalizing, through her decrees, that at which she did nothing but wink at first.

In a footnote, Calvin gives specific examples of how Christians saints simply became substitutes for pagan deities.

Thus St. Anthony of Padua restores, like Mercury, stolen property; St. Hubert, like Diana, is the patron of sportsmen; St. Cosmas, like Esculapius, that of physicians, etc. In fact, almost every profession and trade, as well as every place, have their especial patron saint, who, like the tutelary divinity of the Pagans, receives particular hours from his or her protégés.

You can read the entire work on Google Books.

Calvin’s treatment includes a historical overview, quotes from the church fathers, and even citations from sixteenth-century Roman Catholic scholars. The result is an air-tight case for the true origin of many Catholic practices.

Calvin’s conclusion is that these practices are nothing more than idolatrous superstitions, rooted in ancient Roman paganism. Even today, five centuries later, his work still serves as a necessary warning to those who persist in such idolatry. Hence his concluding sentence: “Now, those who fall into this error must do so willingly, as no one can from henceforth plead ignorance on the subject as their excuse.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: canonization; catholic; catholicbashing; idoltery; reformation
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1 posted on 01/21/2015 4:47:04 PM PST by RnMomof7
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2 posted on 01/21/2015 4:57:35 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: RnMomof7

Mohammed is high on a pagan Saint list


3 posted on 01/21/2015 5:02:39 PM PST by Sasparilla (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_of_Lisieux


4 posted on 01/21/2015 5:06:28 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

After reading this post, I read your About page, was very pleased, and am hoping more RCC members are called out and chosen just as you are and have been.

Welcome to the frozen chosen, as we were called once upon a time. (Make sure it’s PCA, not the other.)


5 posted on 01/21/2015 5:07:27 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: RnMomof7

I do not think Calvin was a big fan of the Catholic Church.


6 posted on 01/21/2015 5:08:12 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Labour%C3%A9


7 posted on 01/21/2015 5:09:03 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

“We will hear thee again of this matter.”


8 posted on 01/21/2015 5:09:34 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadette_Soubirous


9 posted on 01/21/2015 5:09:45 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacinta_and_Francisco_Marto


10 posted on 01/21/2015 5:10:30 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7
The "saints" of Catholicism just replaced the gods the pagans had. Even Cardinal Newman admits the Catholic Church incorporates pagan beliefs.

The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison, are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.[Cardinal Newman - Development of Christian Doctrine, pg 373]

11 posted on 01/21/2015 5:10:36 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe


12 posted on 01/21/2015 5:13:11 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Stein


13 posted on 01/21/2015 5:14:08 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: CynicalBear

Only currently committed Roman catholics cannot see that. FORMER RCs in my fellowship do see it and are vocal about it now.


14 posted on 01/21/2015 5:14:46 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_of_%C3%81vila


15 posted on 01/21/2015 5:15:04 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7
"prayers to the saints, prayers for the dead, the veneration of relics, the lighting of candles (in homage to the saints), and the veneration of icons are all rooted in Roman paganism. Such practices infiltrated the Christian church after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the fourth century."

Syncretic Paganism, codified into RC belief, read back into the Scriptures (eisogesis), then defended here on Free Republic.

16 posted on 01/21/2015 5:15:18 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianna_Beretta_Molla


17 posted on 01/21/2015 5:15:38 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_More


18 posted on 01/21/2015 5:16:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fisher


19 posted on 01/21/2015 5:17:40 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RnMomof7

Oh, for God’s sake. Ever since the early 1500’s Calvin has opposed the Catholic Church. But, he had no problem with a church being named after himself. Talk about inconsistencies.

Catholics don’t even pray straight to the Blessed Mother. They merely address a request to her to pray FOR them to God.


20 posted on 01/21/2015 5:17:46 PM PST by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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