Posted on 01/21/2015 4:47:04 PM PST by RnMomof7
That is exactly what Catholicism does. The gospel is the good news of salvation. Catholicism adds to what the apostles taught. No one can deny that Catholicism teaches that believing what they teach must be believed for salvation. It's a different gospel than the apostles taught.
Your post is untrue in every regard.
Well done!
“Calvin ... demonstrates... veneration of relics... Roman paganism...”
The early Christians were Jewish and the Hebrew people venerated relics. The early Christians continued with the practice that was found in the ancient traditions of their roots since the time of Moses.
Joshua 3:15; 1 Samuel 4-6;2 Samuel 11-12; numbers 21:9; 2nd Kings 13:21 - especially this one!;Acts 5:15; Acts 19:12
Exodus 29:37 - Clearly!! the Jewish people held that material “creatures” (created goods) had the ability to become sacred conduits for God’s power in the right circumstances.
The pagan Romans HATED the early Catholic Christians and martyred them - because their worship DIFFERED from pagan beliefs, not because they were the SAME as pagan Roman beliefs.
In particular the Roman pagans were suspicious of and killed the early Catholic Christians for their literal re enactment of the Lord’s supper (eucharist) on Sundays. The eucharist is explicitly referenced in the still preserved writings of St. Ignatius of Antioch who wrote within 50 years (or less) of the resurrection. There are other early records (Didache) that show beyond doubt that the earliest Christians were Catholic and had the mass and sacraments.
Calvin dropped sacred Tradition (small t tradition that bible warns against is NOT the same as sacred Tradition) and made up an interpretation of the bible that is his own own opinion in the 1500’s - over one thousand years after Christ.
Were both the eastern churches (Orthodox) and the western (Latin) churches in error for all of these centuries? of course not; it was Calvin who was in error with his made up biblical interpretations; did the Lord “protect” Christians from the Truth until the heresy of Calvin?
Saint Thomas Aquinas could out think and refute Calvin’s absurd premises in a nano second.
To reiterate: Jewish tradition allowed for the recognition of material relics as holy (see above biblical proof texts) and the early Christians continued the practice.
Then show where the apostles taught the assumption of Mary and the requirement to believe it.
That may be in the Bible, but it’s not a teaching of the Catholic Church, any more than the Levitican command that active homosexuals be put to death.
I would bet “more than one beer” that you already knew that.
LOL Catholicism adds, subtracts, and corrupts what scripture teaches. So you're saying that fish entrails no longer work? How about burning fish hearts to ward off devils?
Once again. Well done!!
If Jerome and Basil changed their statements why would you even consider them credible?
Excellent point...I was going to respond but then I scrolled down and saw your post...
This proves what we and others have been saying all along...
The earliest church fathers unanimously supported 'sola scripture'...It's clear from the Catholic religion's own history that the Catholic religion didn't come into existance til Constantine...
A set of Ignatius' writings were forged about that time making reference to the Catholic religion which didn't exist at the time of Ignatius' life...
I was doing some reading that referenced some of that. I need to do more research on just how much the Catholics rely on writing that is forged.
That's a weird thought...How about, because no one prayed to and thru dead saints so there was nothing to complain about...
But the accusation from Protestants has always been that people WERE praying to saints. That’s the accusation that this thread is all about.
A LOT...Their basic religious beliefs are based on the forgeries of Ignatius...Without those forgeries, they don't have a religion...
The Donation of Constantine...
The Isidorian Decretals (which falsely gives them the authoity for their popehood)...
And many others...
They still reference Thomas Aquinas' use of these false Decretals even knowing they have been proven forgeries...
I can’t even imagine putting my faith and trust in an organization that relies on and references proven forged documents.
Irenaeus lived two centuries before the catholic folly was born.
He was a true follower of the Way, not a catholic.
Eusebius was the first ‘catholic’ scholar.
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Most of the early Catholic history comes from Eusebius...Much of the later Catholic history is based on what Eusebius wrote...
Supposedly many early Catholic documents are cited by Eusebius...Those documents don't exist but we are to trust that the Catholic Eusebius, Constantine's right hand man gave us the real history...
Quite often when someone is quoted from that period and one asks, 'how do you know it's true', they will have to say, 'because Eusebius said so'... And so that is what's passed of as legitimate Catholic history...Ya hafta take it for what it's worth...
But they did...And still do...I'm sure most Catholics don't realize it...They just follow the guy with the flute...
-— ...They just follow the guy with the flute... -—
Luther? He invented Sola Scriptura, which isn’t biblical or historical.
The doctrine didn’t exist, and was practically impossible, until Gutenberg invented the printing press. Shortly thereafter, Luther saw an opportunity.
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