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To: livius
It just occured to me that the selection/election of a pope is no different than the selective election of an American politician.

I think you guys HAVE BEEN MADE to be pre-occupied with YOUR leader while the pos in the White House continues (with less Catholic opposition ... you're all too busy defending/analyzing the pope) to carry through the plan to destroy ANY Christian influence in the world.

It has been pointed out that we are not as Christian a nation as we'd like to be or think, but we ARE the biggest Christian influence in the world.

IF what I just said even touches the truth, the pervasive evil in this world is more powerful than what we thought ... nor can handle

Father ... bring revival .... or us home ... in Jesus' name. Amen.

5 posted on 01/20/2015 5:39:41 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf
It just occured to me that the selection/election of a pope is no different than the selective election of an American politician.

Even the previous pope didn't think the Holy Spirit has much to do with it:

"I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope. … I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined...There are too many contrary instances of popes the Holy Spirit obviously would not have picked! -- from the Patheos article Does the Holy Spirit pick the pope? Ratzinger didn’t think so.
And just for fun, there's these:
Flash forward to 1455: the cardinals, including Bessarion, are in the midst of another papal conclave to elect a new pope. There are two factions, each aligned with a different Italian politician. After a number of votes with no consensus, the cardinals start looking for a more politically neutral candidate. Bessarion was an obvious choice since he was from the east and was less invested in Italian politics. And in fact he received a number of votes in the next round. But there was one problem: he had a beard and refused to shave it.
-- from the blog-pimping thread The Beard That Lost This Cardinal The Papacy

THE VATICAN (CAP) - As white smoke started to clear outside the papal conclave, details from inside the meeting began to emerge from various high-ranking officials and their manservants. Speaking on condition of anonymity, sources say the artist formerly known as Jorge "Franny" Bergoglio took the Papal Crown in a surprise upset in which Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn had been a favorite to win.

The competition was grueling, with at least 20 cardinals chosen to strut their stuff during the closed-door sessions. Multiple reports say Schoenborn nailed the swimsuit contest, looking fierce in a red two-piece that accentuated his abs, and had mastered the art of walking in stilettos, a skill integral to the Pope's role of walking on eggshells around questions of sexual abuse. But his reputation as a mama's boy did Schoenborn in. Even his vocal talents during a puppet show using the heads of Sts. Peter and Paul, with Schoenborn dressed as the Virgin Mary, couldn't save him.

"He really did make it sound like those severed heads were talking," said Cardinal Timothy Dolan. "But in the end, I just couldn't vote for the guy."
-- from the online article Schoenborn Nails Swimsuit But Not Enough For Pope


11 posted on 01/20/2015 7:01:25 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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