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To: ADSUM
You realize that the Catholic Church teachings are protected from error by the Holy Spirit.

You do realize the Holy Spirit will not contradict the Word?

The immaculate conception pretty much negates your statement as the Holy Spirit will not contradict the Word.

Or perhaps this falsehood from Urban II?

All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested.

Again, another contradiction of the Word. That statement, btw, is more in line with Islam. Jihad is the word we're looking for here.

Surely you're not referring to the "unchanging" teaching of the rcc which has been shown on this board to have changed over the centuries.

Contrast that with the Word which has not changed over the centuries.

You do realize the Holy Spirit is promised to all believers in Christ? He is not limited to just a "few" in the rcc.

126 posted on 01/18/2015 5:18:30 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Your comment: “You do realize the Holy Spirit is promised to all believers in Christ? He is not limited to just a “few” in the rcc.”

Yes, but we can also lose through sin.

Jesus promised he would not leave us orphans (John 14:18) but would send the Holy Spirit to guide and protect us (John 15:26). He gave the sacraments to heal, feed, and strengthen us. The seven sacraments —baptism, the Eucharist, penance (also called reconciliation or confession), confirmation, holy orders, matrimony, and the anointing of the sick—are not just symbols. They are signs that actually convey God’s grace and love.

The sacraments were foreshadowed in the Old Testament by things that did not actually convey grace but merely symbolized it (circumcision, for example, prefigured baptism, and the Passover meal prefigured the Eucharist. When Christ came, he did not do away with symbols of God’s grace. He supernaturalized them, energizing them with grace. He made them more than symbols.

God constantly uses material things to show his love and power. After all, matter is not evil. When he created the physical universe, everything God created was “very good” (Gen. 1:31). He takes such delight in matter that he even dignified it through his own Incarnation (John 1:14).

During his earthly ministry Jesus healed, fed, and strengthened people through humble elements such as mud, water, bread, oil, and wine. He could have performed his miracles directly, but he preferred to use material things to bestow his grace.

In his first public miracle Jesus turned water into wine, at the request of his mother, Mary (John 2:1–11). He healed a blind man by rubbing mud on his eyes (John 9:1–7). He multiplied a few loaves and fish into a meal for thousands (John 6:5–13). He changed bread and wine into his own body and blood (Matt. 26:26– 28). Through the sacraments he continues to heal, feed, and strengthen us.


128 posted on 01/18/2015 5:34:51 PM PST by ADSUM
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