To: Zuriel; Resettozero; CynicalBear; Elsie
Since you made comments about the NIV translation I will use interlinear translation "On a side note, if any of you made a physical effort to go hear a preacher preach the Gospel, which caused you to make a committment to Christ; shame on you for making a physical effort in order to be saved /sarc." There you go again thinking that a man can cause you to commit to Jesus and/or save you. Only our Heavenly Father can cause us to commit to Christ. As far as the physical effort in order to be saved you act like that the drive saved you, but it didnt. You are saved by committing with your HEART, not your body. You could have been saved in your very own house if you had chosen you didnt need to make that drive. Your physical effort argument is thinking again of fleshly desires and not the Spirit. Romans 2:4 Or the riches of the kindness of him and the forbearance and the patience despise you not knowing that the kindness of God to repentance you leads Ephesians 1:18 Being enlightened the eyes of the heart of you in order to know you what is the hope of the calling of him what [are] the riches of the glory of the inheritance of him in the saints Romans 9:16 So then [it is] not of him willing nor of him running but on whom is showing mercy God John 5:24 Truly truly I say to you that the [one] the word of me hearing and believing the [one] having sent me has life eternal and into judgement not comes but has passed out of death into life Hebrews 10:12 this [One] moreover one for sins having offered sacrifice in perpetuity sat down at [the] right hand of God He sat down contrary to OT Priests because his work of Salvation was done, complete, or finished. John 19:30 When therefore took the sour wine Jesus he said it has been finished and having bowed the head he yielded up [his] spirit You fail to realize that Baptism to a first century Jew or Gentile didn't mean salvation. It has been perverted over the centuries to mean salvation, but that wasn't the original intention. "Several biblical regulations specify that full immersion in water is required to regain ritual purity after ritually impure incidents have occurred. A person was required to be ritually pure in order to enter the Temple. In addition, a convert to Judaism is required to immerse in a mikveh as part of the his/her conversion, and a woman is required to immerse in a mikveh after her menstrual period or childbirth before she and her husband can resume marital relations. In this context, "purity" and "impurity" are imperfect translations of the Hebrew "tahara" and "tumah", respectively, in that the negative connotation of the word impurity is not intended; rather being "impure" is indicative of being in a state in which certain things are prohibited (as relevant) until one has become "pure" again by immersion in a mikveh." It's the outward sign of conversion of the heart that can't be seen except by God Himself. Under the OT law man was dependent on a man the High Priest to take his sacrifice into the Holy of Holies, but under Jesus we worship by Spirit and not by man. If we have to be Baptized then we are right back to the OT of works by a Man and I just can't accept that. The Spirit of Jesus Christ is him being the Messiah and the Savior. I BELIEVE in the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross and of that alone. Strong's Concordance pisteuó: to believe, entrust Original Word: πιστεύω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: pisteuó Phonetic Spelling: (pist-yoo'-o) Short Definition: I believe, have faith in Definition: I believe, have faith in, trust in; pass: I am entrusted
219 posted on
01/18/2015 10:14:01 PM PST by
mrobisr
To: mrobisr
No make sense...but thanks for the thought.
To: mrobisr
BIG paragraph!
I will get to it as soon as possible, though.
232 posted on
01/19/2015 4:34:07 PM PST by
Zuriel
(Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
To: mrobisr
Okay, it does make sense. But my eyes are angry with you because of the strain you placed on them.
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