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To: CraigEsq
Well...Peter would disagree with you. On both points. Actually, in the same sentence:
“Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” 1 Peter 3:21.

You got the wrong type of baptism here...

1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

THIS baptism is a 'like figure' of the baptism you are referring to...It doesn't 'correspond' to anything...

THIS baptism doesn't clean anyone...

THIS baptism is NOT an appeal for anything...THIS baptism is the answer of a good conscience toward God...That is TOWARD GOD, NOT from God...

When you pervert the scriptures, you get a perverted interpretation...

108 posted on 01/17/2015 5:53:24 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

>You got the wrong type of baptism here...
>1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
>THIS baptism is a ‘like figure’ of the baptism you are referring to...It doesn’t ‘correspond’ to anything...
>THIS baptism doesn’t clean anyone...
>THIS baptism is NOT an appeal for anything...THIS baptism is the answer of a good conscience toward God...That is TOWARD GOD, NOT from God...
> When you pervert the scriptures, you get a perverted interpretation...

Well I have a hard time accepting that the ESV is a perversion of the scriptures. If you like the KJV, that’s fine. Doesn’t change anything.

You appear to be saying that this verse says that “water” baptism is “a like figure” of “spirit” baptism? Problem is, there is only one “type” of baptism. It’s just baptism. “one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all” Eph 4:5-6. Water baptism is redundant, since baptizo implies that there is water.

The context makes it clear that baptism corresponds to Noah’s flood. See v. 20. I’ll even use the KJV, since it appears to be your preference:
“18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.”

Still compares to the flood.


183 posted on 01/17/2015 3:19:09 PM PST by CraigEsq
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