What Do the Scriptures Mean which speak of “the flesh?”

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-08-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Salvation]

From the article: There is no musical better at (humorously) depicting the flesh as Camelot. Here are a few video clips that depict well the flesh.

In this first video Sir Lancelot ponders what a great and perfect guy he is. He goes so far as to say that “Had I been made the partner of Eve we’d be Eden still!”

Video

In this clip, the Knights (in the flesh) ridicule goodness and sing “Fie On Goodness!” It well illustrates the tendency of the flesh not only to indulge sin, but also to resist and ridicule what is good.

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[Salvation]

Monsignor Pope Ping!

[Shery]

Another good word by a real man of God! I so appreciate him! God is good to give us a good word of instruction to keep us hungering after Him and humble in our daily walk.

[defconw]

(:) “sin nature”? What???

[verga]

When Jesus said: The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you--they are full of the Spirit and life.He was clearly speaking in terms of Galatians.

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy,[a] drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

[verga]

BTW in way before the haters.

[Slambat]

Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink (John 6:53-55).

Got in a lot of trouble in Sunday school for that one.
It was fun.

[Slambat]

“BTW in way before the haters.”

People who use the word “hater” as a means to justify
moral superiority are the same people who use the word
“racist” to claim intellectual superiority. Words used
to justify and end to debate without paving to prove a point
or back up a lie.

[defconw]

How did you get in trouble for that? Why would you? Just wondering.

[defconw]

You must be new to Catholic threads.

[verga]

You must be new to Catholic threads.

Or woefully uninformed.

[defconw]

Or that. I wonder if this is why Jesus wants us to consume His flesh and blood? His after all has the power to transform our flesh? I guess I never really though that much about flesh oddly enough.

I love Monsignor Pope, makes me think every day. I can't wait for his article to be posted every day.

[chajin]

I won't quibble with the minor disagreements; this is a well-thought out understanding of "the flesh." What's missing--and to be fair, it might well be the next chapter if this were a chapter in a theology text--is the third distinction, the "natural man" (psychikos anthropos) of I Corinthians 2:14, the Aristotelian who aims, not for Godliness, but megalopsychia. I can't speak for Catholics, but many Protestants, particularly among the laity, see themselves as a Manichean duality, flesh vs. spirit, not realizing that Christianity asserts three natures within humans, the soma (flesh), the psyche (soul/mind), and the pneuma (spirit), and the distinction between the flesh and the soul, and between the soul and the spirit, is just as necessary to understanding human nature as the distinction between the flesh and the spirit.

[defconw]

That is a very interesting question. Maybe you should go to Monsignor’s blog and ask him. I would be interested in what his reply would be.

[Salvation]

**The disobedience and rebelliousness of the flesh roots us in sinful behavior and prideful attitudes. The prideful attitude of the flesh is even more dangerous than the sins that flow from the flesh since pride precludes instruction in holiness and possible repentance that lead to life. But the flesh does not like to be told what to do. Hence it rejects the testimony of the the Church, the scriptures and the conscience. **

Wise words apply everywhere.

[Salvation]

BTTT for you!

[Mercat]

My son played Lancelot in his HS production of Camelot. Wearing gold. At the end of his singing C’est Moi his godmother who was an appellate court judge stood up and started yelling his name. LOL. I could never have gotten away with that.

[Slambat]

“How did you get in trouble for that? Why would you? Just wondering.”

“eat of my flesh”. As a 10 year old boy with a healthy
imagination, You cant imagine how I would get in trouble?
Do I really have to say it? I guess we grow up different
down here in Texas where little boys are little boys
and act like it.

That’s one of the problems I see with the Northwestern
Communist Block U.S.A. they prevent boys from being boys
and even though they teach heterosexual human reproduction
in the 4th or 5th grade they teach homosexuality in
kindergarten. That’s no way to raise boys and in that
context I can see why you would wonder how I could get
in trouble in sunday school for it.

[Salvation]

Another bit of wisdom:

The flesh is intent on things of this world, upon gratifying its own passions and desires. On account of the flesh we are concerned primarily with ourselves and seek to be at the center.

[defconw]

You just said Sunday School, some Protestants go to Sunday School as adults apparently. If as you now state this was as a child, then of course I get it. There are lots of things in the Bible that little boys can and do get in trouble over.