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Well here’s the thing. You’re admitting the words that make Matthew 18:15 about personal relationships are really there. But if they still don’t matter to you, what am I to do with that?

You are going all over the place again, Just two little scriptures is really all we have to deal with here.

2 Corinthian’s 13:1
Galatians 2:11

If you first want to tell me they do not mean what they say

Then I will tell you for the 20th time why I believe Matthew 18:15 is not confined to private matters.

All of this just because I commented that Christians should read the Gospels more, which is a strong indication that many Christians are offended if some one wants to put Jesus ahead of Paul.

I for one do put Jesus ahead of Paul or any one else.

That is why I insinuated that they were Paul worshippers.

You are going all over the place again,

Not really. These are very brief arguments using only a few relevant Scriptures. Volumes could be written. I'm only going light because I have limits on my time. And because people don't read really long posts anyway, so why bother. :)

Just two little scriptures is really all we have to deal with here.

2 Corinthian’s 13:1
Galatians 2:11

Nope. Every Scripture that speaks to the matter is valid evidence. As I said above, I haven't introduced but a tiny fraction of the available evidence, but time and prudence constrain me.

If you first want to tell me they do not mean what they say

Oh they mean what they say, just not what you say. See previous post for elaboration.

Then I will tell you for the 20th time why I believe Matthew 18:15 is not confined to private matters.

You can tell me Matthew 18:15 proves that America never really landed on the Moon. Assertions of your personal belief are always welcome, but they don't mean anything if they are divorced from the actual text. Sorry.

All of this just because I commented that Christians should read the Gospels more, which is a strong indication that many Christians are offended if some one wants to put Jesus ahead of Paul.

No, that is absolutely not why this got started. You have described yourself as rejecting that all the words of Scripture were directed by the Holy Spirit. That's a seriously heretical doctrine called partial inspiration, and it is refuting that falsehood which has given energy to my response. If you only wanted the Gospels read more, I would have given you a hearty amen and moved on. I love the Gospels and read them all the time. Indeed, they are one of the reasons I also love Paul, and read him all the time. And James and Peter etc etc etc. It's all from God. Every. Last. Word of It.

I for one do put Jesus ahead of Paul or any one else. That is why I insinuated that they were Paul worshippers.

I do not see how denigrating His chosen apostles is "putting Jesus ahead." It seems more like a back-door way to reject Him. No one here worships Paul or puts him ahead of or even in the same league as Jesus. A charge like that is just inflammatory rhetoric. It should be overwhelmingly clear to you by now that the issue is one's view of God, not Paul. All Scripture is inspired, God-breathed, fully capable of giving us God's message without error. That's just how God is. If you don't want to believe that, fine, that's your choice. But don't expect us to lay down and be quiet when someone starts trying to cut large swaths out of God's word.

Think about it this way. If you received a love letter from the one person you treasure above all others, and some of it was written in the hand of her secretary, and some in her own hand, would you toss everything not in her handwriting? Wouldn't you want to know absolutely everything she said, no matter whose hand it was written in? It's not about the secretary. It's about the one we love above all others.

Peace,

SR