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To: BlueDragon
Yet what I was driving at was not "by works", but those works being led by even the spirit, and faith in "doing the right thing" (and that "thing" being right according to God's own view, not just man's) and people here and there yielding to that choosing the best way and the right way, sensing Him even if they were not thinking *Jesus* at the time.

I understood you perfectly-- when I was saying "faith 'in works'" I was referring to this idea of "faith in what Christ stands for" or "right principles," as you might be thinking. This stands refuted with the scriptures I have provided. Repent of it. You mislead infidels into thinking they will be saved provided they have a trust in "virtue" and give to charity. In hell they will burn the hottest because of you.

202 posted on 01/06/2015 2:40:00 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
No, you still are not understanding me.

Is it not written that in the last days He shall pour out His Spirit upon all flesh?

When some encounter Him in that way -- yet not knowing of "Jesus" but what they have been wrongly told of Him -- but submitting themselves to Him nonetheless -- those are the kind of things I was speaking towards.

It is still salvation by Him.

As far as my previous speaking of "stemming the tide of evil" -- I know of evils done to this or that person, that the Spirit led me to consider were like THE significant factor which helped induce a person who had themselves been victimized in some way, to then become a victimizer themselves of the innocent & powerless.

If instead of one or a few persons doing dirt, so to speak --- if but a few of those had not --- and others instead allowed themselves to be led of the Spirit and be able to draw the person whom themselves had suffered mistreatment ---back, or out and away from evil that they had yet to do, then in that way further evils can be headed off, in that way it can help "stem the tide".

203 posted on 01/06/2015 2:55:53 AM PST by BlueDragon
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