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To: tomsbartoo
It's absolutely true that the Catholic Church, in large part and especially in its teaching ministry --- has collapsed into the culture. It becomes more and more secular-hedonist-American, less and less Catholic as time goes on.

With exceptions, of course, --- blessed exceptions.

Catholics vote like other Americans (at least 50% Obamunist) because Catholics think like other Americans. And it is because the teachers are not teaching.

And some people respond "Well then, I'm abandoning the Church." Really? The solution to the catastrophic abandonment of the Church, is to abandon the Church?

You have to exercise Catholic Truth wherever you are. How you teach your kids, get involved in RCIA or Youth Formation, or Adult religious ed, consult with your pastor and your DRE, take charge of the weekly bulletin or parish newsletter, do what you can, where you can.

A month ago I finished reading Sigrid Undset's biography of St. Catherine of Siena. She had no position in this world: she was not a Princess or Countess or Queen, not the daughter of a noble family or the wife of a prosperous tradesman, she was not the daughter, sister, or mother of knights or prelates, she was not an Abbess or a learned choir sister, she could read Latin (she read the Psalms) but could not write it, nor could she read or write her native Tuscan, wave after wave of epidemic disease wracked Tuscany and decimated her family, and she was in poor health for most of her short life (she died at 33.)

So the Lord made her a reformer of Popes and Emperors.

I mean, you give yourself to the Lord! And then you do what you can!

St. Francis of Assisi, pray for us.
St. Ignatius of Loyola, pray for us.
St. Catherine of Siena, reformer of the papacy, pray for us!

31 posted on 12/31/2014 2:31:28 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Timothy 3:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's absolutely true that the Catholic Church, in large part and especially in its teaching ministry --- has collapsed into the culture. It becomes more and more secular-hedonist-American, less and less Catholic as time goes on.

"Agorniamento" has resulted in mass apostasy.

34 posted on 12/31/2014 2:51:42 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Mrs. Don-o; tomsbartoo
Catholics vote like other Americans (at least 50% Obamunist) because Catholics think like other Americans.

You mean that they vote like the Americans who are not Christians, if they voted with the majority of the Christian Americans who are not Catholic, then things would be very different.

The Catholic vote has helped collapse the culture by being a force for the left, and not just in feeding the corrupt big city machines and unionism, for instance the non catholic Christian vote went against FDR in 1940 and 1944, just as it went against Truman and Kennedy, and Clinton and Al gore, Obama and so on.

America is coming to resemble it's Catholic neighbors, in corruption and moral decay, and the vote determines that path.

35 posted on 12/31/2014 3:34:22 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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