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To: RnMomof7

The 4th commandment has not been abrogated; none of the ten commandments have been abrogated.

The 4th commandment is a Creation ordinance, instituted by God not only before the Israelites, but before the fall of Adam into sin. Since at that point there was no sin in the world, thus no need of a Savior, the Sabbath ordinance can not be ceremonial.


34 posted on 12/30/2014 6:27:53 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen; RnMomof7

The 4th commandment is a Creation ordinance

very interesting, so Adam, Noah and Abraham all rested on the 7th day in observance of the Sabbath?

if you answer yes, could you please provide chapter and verse to support your answer.

the pagan Gentiles who were being preached to by the Apostles and converted to faith in Christ had no idea what the Sabbath was and how to observe resting on it.
Can you show anywhere in the NT after Pentecost that the Apostles taught that the 7th day Sabbath was to be observed or how to observe it? Anywhere?


36 posted on 12/30/2014 6:46:24 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: PieterCasparzen

Christ fulfilled them for us... The purpose of the 10 commandments was not “law-keeping”.. the purpose was to lead us to Christ..

Gal 3:24

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Rom 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Tools specific to Rom 3:21

Rom 3:21

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

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Rom 3:22

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and us

Rom 7:7

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

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Rom 7:8

But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Rom 7:9

For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Rom 10:4

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Rom 7:24

Gal 3:25

But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


48 posted on 12/31/2014 12:07:17 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: PieterCasparzen

Those commandments were written by His Finger from stone from His Throne..

His Throne is eternal.. so are His Commandments..

Problem is, people use pope Gregory’s calendar to either get their pope appointed Saturday, or their pope approved Sunday and call them sabbath.

Both are wrong.. and if one sees that, they see how the enemy works to steal worship from Him who created heaven, the earth the seas and all that is in them..

The world’s calendar is a counterfeit., and Jews, Muslims, Christians, secular humanists, atheists, etc, are mostly using it to set their work and worship lives..

But the calendar He gives in His sky and in His Word is not set up for this world... it would require a conscious choice to follow it...


50 posted on 12/31/2014 2:12:16 PM PST by delchiante
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