>> “i have no problem with that but those words are the apostles creed from way back. they define what a christian is and believes” <<
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No apostle ever voiced such a creed; it is an unscriptural assertion of what someone wanted to limit the faith to.
What define what a Christian is and believes are the words and deeds of Yeshua. They differ much from what that man made ‘creed’ says.
Read his words in the gospels.
but how do you articulate those important ideas to your fellow mates.