And why not...It's clear in the O.T. that the elect are the Jews...
Isa_45:4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
Luk_18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
2Ti 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
I believe all of the references in the N.T. of the elect are Jews, or a remnant thereof...
1 Cor 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
Trump
σάλπιγξ
salpigx
sal'-pinx
Perhaps from G4535 (through the idea of quavering or reverberation); a trumpet: - trump (-et).
1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed
I believe the KJV has the correct translation since the Greek word more represents the sound a trumpet makes than the actual trumpet...And that definitely fits the narrative...
The 'church' is last heard of at the end of Rev. 3...Before the Tribulation starts...And what do we hear in Rev. 4:1??? COME UP HITHER (the Rapture)...
Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
A trumpet...A voice that resembles a trumpet blasting; a Trump (of a trumpet)...Before the Tribulation...Imagine that...
1 Thess 2:1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.>/i>
Every time the Bible gives any hint of timing regarding the rapture, it always is at the end of the tribulation! One must twist, turn and jump to explain away the plain meaning of these verses, based on the un-Biblical preconceived belief in the pre-trib rapture.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
Paul is speaking of two separate events there; the gathering together (the Rapture) and the 2nd Coming...
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Someone told these people they missed the Rapture and that the next event they would see is Jesus coming to the Earth...So of course they were shook up...Paul re-assured them that first the man of sin had to be revealed and so not to worry about it...The gathering together (Rapture) would take place first...
God will not judge the righteous with the unrighteous....we can refer directly to Noah....also Lot being taken out of Sodom.... and He will do it for us.
referring to 1 Thess.5:4..... Paul wrote that the Church is removed before the day of darkness so that the Day of the Lord will not overtake them like a thief in the night..... Since it initiates the judgment, God will remove the Church from the darkness ‘not keep them through it’ as some believe.
A quick look at the context of Romans 8:33 clearly indicates the elect ARE NOT the Jews:
Roman 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Paul is speaking of two separate events there; the gathering together (the Rapture) and the 2nd Coming...
Don't you find it troublesome ha the events are in reverse order per the pre-trib doctrine?
Pre-trib insists on the gathering first (rapture) and the coming second, yet this verse has them in reverse order?
Trump
σάλπιγξ
salpigx
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I believe the KJV has the correct translation since the Greek word more represents the sound a trumpet makes than the actual trumpet...And that definitely fits the narrative...
Your statement in Bold is the best admission yet. The ONLY reason to assert the last trump of 1 Cor 15:52 is not the Seventh Trumpet of Rev 10:15 is because it does not fit the pre-trib narrative!
BTW, Stong's 4536 "salpigx" is used not only in 1 Cor 15:52, but also in Matt 24:31, 1 Th 4:16, Rev 1:10, 4:1, 8:2 8:6 8:13, 9:14!
And in 1 Cor 15:52, "...at the last trump: for the trumpet*shall*sound (Strong's 4537 - salpizo), this is the same word used in Rev 10:15 "And the seventh angel sounded.