[jimmyray]

QUOTE: "Christ is not speaking to the disciples as representatives of Judaism, which rejected Christ, everything he said was said to, and for, the church."

Well written!

[sasportas]

Likewise, your posts.

Re: verse 9 of the discourse, “Then shall they deliver YOU up to be afflicted, and shall kill YOU, and YE shall be hated of all nations for my names sake.”

Who’s the “You,” the “Ye?” Is it Judaism, which rejects Jesus, that is hated for his name’s sake? I think not. It is Christians who are hated for the name of Jesus, and increasingly so by the day.

To say that the discourse is not spoken to Christians is one of the worst cases of reading into scripture one’s preconceived view, I’ve ever seen.

[huldah1776]

“Christ is not speaking to the disciples as representatives of Judaism, which rejected Christ, everything he said was said to, and for, the church.”

which is why in Matt and Mark the parable of the vine-growers is told to the pharisees. The vine-growers are destroyed and the vineyard given to others.