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To: CynicalBear; editor-surveyor

Paul wasn’t condemning their leadership, but the people’s confusion, common enough, that they followed one teacher or another after their baptism/conversion. This is very Jewish and having Paul, an ex-Jew, speak on it is very smart.

How do you appoint an elder? Is he an elder across any denomination or only in that particular one? Which elder is eldest? Is it by age or some other criteria?

This is a nonsense argument and you know it. There can be no Church of Jesus Christ without proper authority.


253 posted on 12/22/2014 4:56:45 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Is he an elder across any denomination or only in that particular one?

At that point there really weren't denominations, but there were churches… I would assume that, so long as the restrictions/qualifications are met, any method of appointment from drawing lots to vote by the body, to direct appointment by [e.g.] a Bishop.

Which elder is eldest? Is it by age or some other criteria?

(Matthew 20:25-26)
But Jesus called them to him and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones are tyrants over them.
It will not be so among you; but whoever wishes to be great among you must be your servant,

254 posted on 12/22/2014 5:01:21 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 1010RD; CynicalBear

>> “How do you appoint an elder? Is he an elder across any denomination or only in that particular one?” <<

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There are no denominations in Yeshua’s assembly.

You are either a part of it or you are not.

Yeshua’s assembly is not a human corporation with human leaders, it is whenever and wherever two or more gather in his name.

It owns no buildings, has no Earthly wealth or symbols, nor “great men” to lead it.

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255 posted on 12/22/2014 5:06:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 1010RD
>>How do you appoint an elder?<<

An elder is simply one of the older members of that assembly who has exhibited the ability to serve in that complicity who by consensus of the assembly is chosen to serve in that capacity.

>>Is he an elder across any denomination or only in that particular one?<<

Denomination? There are no denominations in the first century assemblies. You perhaps need to study the Greek word used. It is NOT church as the Catholic Church has corrupted the meaning. The Greek word used is ekklesia which simply means "those called out". The assemblies were simply local people from an area who became believers who met together.

>>Which elder is eldest? Is it by age or some other criteria?<<

An elder member of that assembly who met the gualifications spelled out by Paul who was chosen by the members of that group to serve in that capacity.

>>This is a nonsense argument and you know it.<<

You purport to tell me what I know?? It is not nonsense it is what scripture teaches.

264 posted on 12/22/2014 5:57:00 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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