[editor-surveyor]

>> “When Jesus says I will lose none of them, it seems pretty clear to me.” <<

But, as I have noted, he didn’t say that.

>> “When Jesus says no one will snatch them out of my hand it seems pretty clear to me.” <<

But who can be “in his hand” if they depart of their own volition?

As I noted in my previous post, the interpretations that you prefer place contradictions in the word.

More study needed.

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[OneWingedShark]

As I noted in my previous post, the interpretations that you prefer place contradictions in the word.

All I note is that you do not post scripture backing your point.

More study needed.

Assuredly.

But who can be “in his hand” if they depart of their own volition?

If they depart of their own volition then obviously Jesus is of lesser power then they themselves: for they themselves are snatching themselves from his hand.
But obviously that is untrue: if he will lose none of those given him by the father, then none of those who (after having be given him) leave can actually be lost, otherwise he is a liar. (This is not to say that we cannot deceive ourselves, that is another topic altogether and human experience has shown the great capacity for self-deception that humanity has.)