[OneWingedShark]

You obviously are ignoring the simple fact that from the time of his enlightenment, the thief did endure to the end, and that is exactly what is demanded of all of us.

And you are ignoring that Jesus said that He would lose none of who God gave Him — there's an interesting story about the author of "Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing" (Robert Robinson) here.

I don't know if it's true, but I am greatly reassured that Jesus said that he will lose none of those that were given him, that no man could snatch them from his hand, as I account myself just such a man wrestling with trying to snatch myself from his hand and wandering away (aye, I have much pride) — Yes, it is reassuring that the object of my salvation is mightier than I and all my sin.

Or were you being facetious? (do I need more coffee?)

Perhaps we both need more coffee. ;)

[editor-surveyor]

>> “And you are ignoring that Jesus said that He would lose none of who God gave Him” <<

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Here you go again placing your own preferred meaning on a Biblical statement that places it in conflict with other Biblical statements.

All it means is that you have more study to do before making the next assertion. God’s word, properly understood, has no contradictions.

Yeshua said only that he lost none of those given him. (the core disciples, he actually ‘lost’ thousands as noted in John’s gospel)

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