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To: CynicalBear

What happened with Baker and others, who got into the ‘prosperity doctrine’ is God’s responsibility...not yours or mine to criticize. Their problem was how they used donations, that is not what Osteen is doing.

All people have a ‘blind side’ or ‘weak side’, for some it’s money, for some it’s some kind of sex, for others it’s a need to be in control, and for some it’s criticism....we are supposed to get ourselves so close to Christ that we can keep that weakness from destroying us.

No doubt, NO DOUBT...you have a weakness that only Christ can help you control completely...that’s why the Bible tells us not to judge one another....

Just because God wants to bless us, it doesn’t mean we are all going to be rich in money, it’s about those blessings that are more than jut money. Although I got one heck of a blessing today, and it was totally unexpected. However, like JOB we go through experiences where we have to endure for a long time, years for some, before that blessing is released to us. No Christian is perfect, only Jesus.

Joel Osteen has a job to do and that’s to encourage the down and out, the JOB Experiencer’s, and the sick so that they look for something from God. Even God told Abraham to visualize the sands of the sea....his generations of descendants. We must see it in our mind’s eye, before we can reap the blessing. The gift of ‘encouragement’ is what Joel Osteen is operating and when you face poverty or illness, that’s what is needed to get through it.

Sin begins in the mind, so does the blessings....Our soul is made up of our mind, will, and emotions...that’s us. The flesh and the spirit war after the soul. You aren’t taking this body to heaven, but you are your soul...guard your mind...

Even when I get upset with Obama, the Holy Spirit will warn me ‘don’t hate’. So God is concerned with the condition of our hearts and minds toward others.

Let God bless Joel Osteen all he wants, it’s his talent in writing that gives him the millions that he spends on his family, it’s not Church donations. He has a salary, and his own independent authorship of many books...you don’t have to buy them. Jealousy comes out of people in the meanest ways....and it’s not justified. HE and his wife are doing the best they can, and I can tell you his father is one reason he is blessed so much. If they fall, then we are to still follow Jesus...no one human being is perfect.


127 posted on 12/17/2014 7:19:43 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Make all excuses or rationalizations you want. The “prosperity gospel” is a different gospel than the apostles taught.


129 posted on 12/17/2014 7:25:28 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Kackikat; Gamecock

Well big mouth are you going to answer the questions in post #85 or not? You going to just kinda avoid those questions......like your false idol fraud dances around the truth?


130 posted on 12/17/2014 7:28:15 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Kackikat; Gamecock; CynicalBear; Jan_Sobieski
No doubt, NO DOUBT...you have a weakness that only Christ can help you control completely...that’s why the Bible tells us not to judge one another....

The Bible does not tell us to judge one another.

We are told to judge with righteous judgment. We are given discernment fro a reason and there's no way to determine whether someone is a false teacher without judging them

FWIW, Joel Osteen is not saved, he is self-righteous and disrespectful to God, he takes Scripture out of context, and refuses to understand the Bible.

176 posted on 12/18/2014 7:59:01 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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