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To: CynicalBear
"Oh come now. The Catholic Church promoted Mary, a woman, to a ministerial position..."

This is factually incorrect. Mary has no role in the ministerial priesthood. It's the 'ministerial priesthood' which the document "Ordinatio Sacerdotalis" referred.

"... She has not just been promoted to a position over that of the Catholic priests but over the pope as well."

Right you are, that Mary has a position over that of Catholic priests and over the pope as well. But as to "promotion," she has been "promoted" in this manner by nobody but God Himself.

Calvin is no particular authority, to me, but I quote this by means of illustration:

"It cannot be denied that God in choosing and destining Mary to be the Mother of his Son, granted her the highest honor."-- John Calvin

For a little more context:

Luke 11:27. Blessed is the womb. By this eulogium the woman intended to magnify the excellence of Christ; for she had no reference to Mary, whom, perhaps, she had never seen. And yet it tends in a high degree to illustrate the glory of Christ, that she pronounces the womb that bore him to be noble and blessed. Nor was the blessing inappropriate, but in strict accordance with the manner of Scripture; for we know that offspring, and particularly when endued with distinguished virtues, is declared to be a remarkable gift of God, preferable to all others. It cannot even be denied that God conferred the highest honor on Mary, by choosing and appointing her to be the mother of his Son." [John Calvin, Calvini Opera , Volume 45, 348.]

Like I said: not proof of course, but as far as quoted, an admirable testimony.

6,098 posted on 01/15/2015 11:17:55 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("WeÂ’re all b@$+@&%$ --- but God loves us anyway." - Will Campbell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BTW, “highest honor” -— Calvin’s phrase -— is synonymous with “hyperdulia.”


6,101 posted on 01/15/2015 11:29:23 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("WeÂ’re all b@$+@&%$ --- but God loves us anyway." - Will Campbell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>Mary has no role in the ministerial priesthood.<<

Riiiiigggggghhhhhttttt.

>>Calvin is no particular authority, to me, but I quote this by means of illustration:<<

Look up the name Michael Servetus and you may get a sense of what I think of Calvin. If you thought that was going to sway or impress me guess again. Using men like that to establish beliefs on is counterproductive as far as I'm concerned.

6,102 posted on 01/15/2015 11:34:00 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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