[metmom]

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Thank you for that fascinating overview of history, which I am sure will be dismissed by some as fabricated.

Parts of it do fit in well, however, with what Daniel1212 posts where church decrees forbid the laity from debating with non-Catholics.

[Texas Songwriter]

I did notice that Clement did say...."commit them to the fire..."....does this mean the Inquisition goes on. It did until the Pope signed the Concordate with Mussolini and went in league with the fascists during world war II to murder (in the former Yugoslavia) 700,000 Croats, 60,000 Jews, and 26,000 Gypsies. They were in league with the Serbs. They told the Croats...."Convert or Die". It was considered the most concentrated killing field of the Axis, far beyond even that of the death camps of Poland.....all with the Pope turning a blind eye and assisting the Ustazi (Mussolini's equivalent of HItlers SS) in the murders. This is not ancient history. This is recent.

Even now, Ratzinger was head of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the renamed Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition. How anyone can know this and read and continue in association with this group is bewildering. But it seems Clement , in his 1776 encyclical explained that.....They are not allowed dissent. They cannot ask questions lest they become victim of those fires to which Clement referenced.