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To: annalex; Mark17; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie
I asked on this thread to show me where the Church contradicts the scripture.

Immaculate Conception of Mary

Game. Set. Match

Next question please.

5,884 posted on 01/14/2015 8:11:48 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; annalex; Mark17; metmom; Elsie

Paul said that anyone who taught something they didn’t should be considered accursed yet no Catholic can show where they taught about the assumption of Mary.


5,887 posted on 01/14/2015 8:51:02 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ealgeone
Immaculate Conception of Mary Game. Set. Match Next question please.

You have to understand that for a RC even if a particular event to a particular person is not shown to have happened, and even lacks evidence from early tradition, and is only said in Scripture that it will happen at the Lord's return, then it can be a doctrine. For since it happened to someone else in Scripture (or even if it did not) then it can be asserted as binding belief that it happened to someone else.

Thus it could be said of Mary that she parted the Red Sea, made iron to float, and walked on water, etc. if some later tradition among the multitude of tales evolved that said so.

For in reality it is not the weight of Scriptural substantiation, upon which the church began, that is the basis for the veracity of RC teaching, but the premise of perpetual magisterial infallibility, which Rome has infallibly defined herself as having.

Thus again,

“the mere fact that the Church teaches the doctrine of the Assumption as definitely true is a guarantee that it is true.” — Karl Keating, Catholicism and Fundamentalism (San Francisco: Ignatius, 1988), p. 275.

5,890 posted on 01/14/2015 9:00:31 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ealgeone; annalex; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie; boatbums
I asked on this thread to show me where the Church contradicts the scripture.

Immaculate Conception of Mary

Game. Set. Match

Next question please.

Salvation by faith (sometimes we need to define just exactly what faith means) vs salvation by hoping your good works outweigh your bad works. I don't know what most catholics think about this, because my dad was the only catholic I ever heard say this, but he thought if someone died fighting for their country, they would go to Heaven. My dad was a good man, but he had some strange ideas about spirituality.

5,891 posted on 01/14/2015 9:02:40 AM PST by Mark17 (Weary and worn, facing for sinners, death on the cross, that He might save them from endless loss)
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To: ealgeone; Mark17; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie
No contradiction. Not taught in the Bible, perhaps, but there is no contradiction. You can re-read my posts on this thread for that. You can start at 1255 when I answered (in part, initially) your 1026 which was identical to your recent post.
5,984 posted on 01/14/2015 7:50:58 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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