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To: paterfamilias
>>“Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”<<

That Catholic Church says that it was on Peter's confession, not on the man Peter.

CCC 424 424 Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn by the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church.

>>“Whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven.”<<

Actaully it says "will have been bound in heaven". The apostles could only declare what had been declared by God already. God never gave anyone the right or power to make the rules.

To that end, let me point out that you are therefore in grave error. Your rejection of what scripture really says. I will pray the Holy Spirit opens your eyes.

549 posted on 12/15/2014 1:15:14 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
Actaully it says "will have been bound in heaven". The apostles could only declare what had been declared by God already. God never gave anyone the right or power to make the rules.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.......The apostles could only declare what was ALREADY THE TRUTH....Now, the apostles, of course did not know every truth that God did....but He promised that what they declared to be the truth, would be OR HE WOULD NOT INSPIRE THEM to declare it.

In short, He declared that the Catholic church would be infallible in matters of faith and morals because He would not allow her to err.....

Thanks,CB you expressed that very well!!!

758 posted on 12/15/2014 6:11:07 PM PST by terycarl
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To: CynicalBear
Actaully it says "will have been bound in heaven". The apostles could only declare what had been declared by God already. God never gave anyone the right or power to make the rules.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.......The apostles could only declare what was ALREADY THE TRUTH....Now, the apostles, of course did not know every truth that God did....but He promised that what they declared to be the truth, would be OR HE WOULD NOT INSPIRE THEM to declare it.

In short, He declared that the Catholic church would be infallible in matters of faith and morals because He would not allow her to err.....

Thanks,CB you expressed that very well!!!

765 posted on 12/15/2014 6:19:27 PM PST by terycarl
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