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To: CynicalBear; Mrs. Don-o; metmom
If your concept of "pastor" is that the person in that position is somehow in authority over others than a woman should not hold that position.

I agree. However, let's not lose sight of an important word Paul inserted in that passage: usurp. He said a woman was not to "usurp authority over a man". That word only occurs ONCE in all of Scripture. The Greek transliteration of that word is authenteÅ and means:

I. one who with his own hands kills another or himself

II. one who acts on his own authority, autocratic

III. an absolute master

IV. to govern, exercise dominion over one

What is prohibited here is a woman, on her own authority, being a master of authority over a man, instead of a woman being in submission to male leaders and, of course, her husband.

BUT...what about the case where a woman is NOT usurping a man's authority but is teaching men by their own invitation? Do churches have guest women teachers? Would it be wrong if the men have given their permission for a woman to teach them? I don't think in this case it would. That I think is the gist of Paul's warning to Timothy.

5,368 posted on 01/06/2015 9:45:29 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; Mrs. Don-o; metmom

Once again when all of scripture is taken into context and the original language consulted and put into perspective the selective use of individual verses is shown to be seeds for error. Of course the clear intent of the origin of this subject was an attempt to silence the messenger rather then address the content of the message.


5,403 posted on 01/07/2015 6:09:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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