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Dear CynicalBear, I'm inclined to agree with a good 95% of the words you just wrote, with gusts of up to 100...and if there's a Catholic here who disagrees with any of that, let me know.

You apparently think that one FReeper ---Af-Vet-1981-- was trying to silence Christian women on this Forum, but that's not as I see it.

(I'm presuming to speak for another FReeper here, which is usually a losing proposition. However...)

My understanding of it is, that Af-Vet-1981 was challenging certain FReeper females to explain why they do not abide by the stricter interpretation of the cited Scriptures at 1 Cor. 14 and 1 Tim. 2. Some Christian groups do take a stricter or more literal approach. My own Church teaches that:

women cannot be pastors/priests
women should not preach at the pulpit, i.e. after the Gospel.

Other Christian churches (but not mine)go further in obedience to Paul, and teach that:

women may not adult men, whether as teachers in a church or in a seminary; they may only teach other women, and children.
Women are not to exercise any "headship" over men in any context (a former employer of mine, a non-Catholic Christian whom I mentioned before, said that.)
And of course, many go in the other, more liberal direction and say that Paul's rules were totally limited to his particular place, time, and churches.

So, on these particular points, what say ye?

>>So, on these particular points, what say ye?<<

Read my post again. I just gave you my answer as was Paul's. Organized "churches" can do as they please just as the Catholic Church does. The very fact that they are man's created organizations is sign enough that they do not follow the New Testament concept of the ekklesia. The organized authoritative hierarchy of today’s churches has no basis in scripture.