Now, the 1st Cor 14 thing. My opinion is, this may have been something to cover a local situation. I understand that in their services, the men sat on one side, the women sat on the other side. From what I have been able to gather, is they were calling across the room to their husbands, and disrupting the services. This may have been simply to keep order. I do agree, the women should ask the husband, who is to spiritually lead his wife. Does he lord it over her? Absolutely not. It is just the hierarchy God has set up. As I said, I am very good at the plan of salvation, which is the very most important thing in the entire universe. Some of these other less important issues, I am not so well versed in. I would feel much better deferring to amoreperfectunion and imardmd1. I think they might have a better grasp on some those finer points.
Of course, if you are inquiring about the plan of salvation, I, along with all of these born again Christains can surely help you or anyone who needs it. I hope that helps somewhat, but ask the two I mentioned. I think they are better on those points.
Paul does indeed give the reason for women to not be in roles of spiritual authority over men in that Eve was deceived.
Now, that also makes me wonder, what role women play in Catholicism, especially in regards to nuns.
I take it then, that nuns CANNOT teach men anything or tell them anything, nor be in ANY position of authority over any man, if the same criteria were being applied to Catholic women as are being applied to FReeperettes.
Would that not be correct?
Of course, if you are inquiring about the plan of salvation, I, along with all of these born again Christains can surely help you or anyone who needs it.
In some ways, obtaining salvation is simple, but in other ways, not so much. Not every "Christian" delivers the Plan that works.
The relationship between the accountable individual and The Mighty God and Judge, as brokered by His Son, Jesus The Anointed One, is everything.
In some ways, obtaining salvation is simple, but in other ways, not so much. Not every "Christian" delivers the Plan that works.
The relationship between the accountable individual and The Mighty God and Judge, as brokered by His Son, Jesus The Anointed One, is everything.
The Vatican sponsored a colloquium a couple of months back focused on Male and Female as Complementary (the short name was The Humanum Coinference." (LINK) It was not just for Catholics, they had Protestant, Evangelical, Orthodox, Jewish, -- all kinds of thinkers and speakers who upheld the Man+Woman Marriage model as absolutely essential.
I was intrigued because people do refer to a complementarity of men and women, but often have a hard time defining just what it consists of.
I admit I haven't plugged into this conference the way I should have. There were (are?) videos and papers and books available, and I've just barely skimmed it.
The whole "controlled demolition of sex and gender" thing that's going down right now, is firmly pushing the ideology that there's no essential difference between men and women "except the plumbing" (how I hate that phrase!!
A Norwegian interviewer named Harald Eia did a fascinating ~30-min. video exploring what he calls the "Gender Equality paradox" (LINK, click on the video) which is that in circumstances (like Norway) where women and men have the greatest freedom to choose professions they actually prefer, women overwhelmingly go toward people-to-people caring professions like childcare, nursing and teaching, and men go for math-and- engineering-heavy professions.
The actual research (meaning, looking at stuff that actually happens) suggests that from infancy, girl babies are more responsive to persons (or human-like figures with faces and voices) as opposed to objects, while boys are more evenly responsive to both persons and objects, with maybe a little lean toward the latter.
That seems to be it, mostly.
Interesting. Your thoughts?