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To: CynicalBear; af_vet_1981; ealgeone
By all rights, if any church is going to be considered the OTC, it ought to be the Corinthian church that Paul said was the body of Christ.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

Romans 14:7-12 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.

For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother?

For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written,

“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”

So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

If God is going to judge the church corporately, do they really want to be associated with that list of immoral, corrupt popes that are throughout their history?

Of the priests who have been molesting children?

Or liberal pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage politicians and those Catholics who vote for them?

4,880 posted on 01/03/2015 8:46:59 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
>>If God is going to judge the church corporately, do they really want to be associated with that list of immoral, corrupt popes that are throughout their history?<<

Revelation 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "'Come out of her, my people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

I have always suspected that verse to refer to those in the Catholic Church who God is calling. I am now more convinced than ever it is.

>>Or liberal pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage politicians and those Catholics who vote for them?<<

Catholics always try to get us to align with some "denomination" or another in an attempt to tie us to whatever that denomination or those in it believe. I often wonder if that means we should associate them with the likes of those corrupt popes or people like Pelosi, Kennedy, and the like.

4,883 posted on 01/03/2015 9:24:38 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom
If God is going to judge the church corporately, do they really want to be associated with that list of immoral, corrupt popes that are throughout their history? Of the priests who have been molesting children? Or liberal pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage politicians and those Catholics who vote for them?

Your list of Popes...10 out of 266....they were sinners like all men.

Priests who molest children are very bad people, just like the MUCH larger number of Protestant clergy, teachers, scout leaders, parents, uncles, aunts..etc etc....all very evil people.

I agree with you on the political trash who purport to represent themselves as Catholic, but all I can do is vote against them and issue my opinions by corresponding with my local diocese....which I do.

4,915 posted on 01/03/2015 8:00:47 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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