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To: GBA

Going back to my own logic,


And there is the difference. God wants us to think, but there has to be a touchstone for truth and that is why he has given us his Word. I can tell from your comments that you don’t read the Bible much, I would encourage you to spend more time there, at least as much as you do at these other places you read.

Truth has to be worked out and sparks fly.

Now your Fatima Comments. You want to believe those are real, I won’t argue with you. But lets look a little deeper. If you believe there is a God, do you also believe there is a Satan and demons? Can Satan and demons do supernatural things? What is the focus here, God? Would they love to distract us from God and the truth?

Are you willing to take a risk and read the Bible a little more instead of listening to what others tell you about it?

I will repeat to you, the Holy Spirit points to Jesus and Jesus points to the Father. Do not get distracted by the Shiny.


4,524 posted on 01/01/2015 7:43:36 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
I will repeat to you, the Holy Spirit points to Jesus and Jesus points to the Father. Do not get distracted by the Shiny.

BTTT

4,525 posted on 01/01/2015 7:50:03 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: PeterPrinciple
In life I've both observed and experienced two forms of knowledge.

We can learn and amass a great amount of data about a subject, but without understanding gained through application and contemplation that data has no real value beyond its potential.

For example, I've known many people with advanced degrees and many others with no formal education beyond high school or a few semesters in college.

Yet, it's often those with little formal education who have the greater understanding than those who have the advanced degree.

Not only that, without the understanding gained through application and contemplation, all that data can just cause problems. We too easily miss the warnings that the experienced but "uneducated" clearly see.

See Malcolm's rant in Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton (New York: Ballantine Books, 1990, pp.305-307) I quoted on my homepage here to get an idea of what I'm trying to say.

I think that difference in knowledge is why some people, no matter what they say or quote, seem to believe that supernatural only applies to Satan and his demons and that God officially suspended operations here on Earth with Jesus' death and won't begin again until He comes back.

4,527 posted on 01/01/2015 8:30:02 AM PST by GBA (I feel this "end times" thrill running up my leg!)
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