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To: annalex; metmom; CynicalBear

Mary cannot hear your prayer....In all of scripture that teaches, talks of, or gives examples of prayer, Mary is never mentioned as part of the process.

We know this because God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are Omnipresent, Omniscient, and Omnipotent. ....Mary is none of the above.

The Holy Spirit, not Mary, is THE Sovereign distributer of all things, this includes Grace, faith, wisdom, peace, understanding, etc..

Everything that the Catholic church tells you can be achieved through prayer to Mary (which is idolatry) is in fact the ministry of the Holy Spirit,... not Mary.

The Holy Spirit makes intercession for us, not Mary.

Romans 8:26-27 confirms to us clearly.....” Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but.. ‘the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us’... with groanings which cannot be uttered..... Now He who searches the hearts knows what ‘the mind of the Spirit is’, because He makes intercession for the saints ‘according to the will of God’.”

Furthermore....The only acceptable prayers are through Christ (in His name not mary’s).

We read in John 14:13-14...” And whatever you ask.. ‘in My name’,... that I will do, that ‘the Father may be glorified in the Son’ If you ask anything ‘In My name’, I will do it. .....(it does not say in Mary’s name, nor that she has any thing to do with the prayer petitions or answers between Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Father...)

and further....Jesus says in Matthew 6:5-13... in teaching us how to pray and giving us ‘an example’, says we are to pray ‘to the Father’,... NOT using vain repetitions..... (in His teaching and example nowhere is Mary mentioned.)

.... “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. .... And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. ...... “Therefore..... do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him..... In this manner, therefore, pray:

Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory
forever. ....Amen


3,856 posted on 12/29/2014 8:13:45 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. ....Amen

added the Doxology I see....

3,870 posted on 12/29/2014 8:31:05 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: caww; metmom; CynicalBear
The Holy Spirit makes intercession for us, not Mary

Did you ask Mary? Do you really expect Mary to lead someone away from her Son? Holy Spirit dwells in her, does it not?

The "vain repetitions" part is nowhere in the Gospel either.

3,976 posted on 12/30/2014 7:45:44 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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