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To: ealgeone; Rides_A_Red_Horse; rwa265; caww; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie
...they're wanting to promote this [Mary as "Co-Redemtrix] to be an "official" dogma of the church! They are petitioning the pope to make this happen now.

Give it time and Mary will soon replace her Son as the one providing salvation.

Interesting because what I found the other day:

Is Pope Francis Preparing To Declare The ‘Virgin’ Mary To Be 4th Part Of The Trinity?

| September 15, 2014

Francis says that our hope is not Jesus, but Mary and Mother Church

“The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.” Jeremiah 7:18

Even though they lie and say that they are only “venerating” her, the Roman Catholic Church has since the middle 1800’s worshipped Mary from the New Testament. They create idols of her, call her the Queen of Heaven, ascribe all sorts of miracles to her statues and bow down to her in worship. As someone who was raised in the Catholic Church and trained by Jesuits, I can testify that this 100% true. But Pope Francis this past weekend took Mary worship, a sin, to staggering new heights.

Francis, speaking to mark the occasion of the Feast of Our Lady of Sorrows in Casa Santa Marta, said the following:

“And this is our hope. We are not orphans, we have Mothers: Mother Mary. But the Church is Mother and the Mother Church is anointed when it takes the same path of Jesus and Mary: the path of obedience, the path of suffering, and when she has that attitude of continually learning the path of the Lord. These two women – Mary and the Church – carry on the hope that is Christ, they give us Christ, they bring forth Christ in us. Without Mary, there would be no Jesus Christ; without the Church, we cannot go forward“.

Jesus has been demoted to third place behind ‘mother’ Mary and the ‘Holy Mother Church’, the Roman Catholic Church. The bible says, however that the “blessed hope” of the Christian is “the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.” Scripture never mentions Mary one time as being the hope of anyone or anything. But if you’re a Catholic Francis says that “ today we can go forward with a hope: the hope that our Mother Mary, steadfast at the Cross, and our Holy Mother, the hierarchical Church, give us.

The position and title that Pope Francis has bestowed on Mary is, by his own words, equal or greater than that of the 2nd part of the Trinity, Jesus Christ. And though he has yet to use the words, he has effectually already placed her status firmly at the Godhead level.

More at the link, clickable in the title.
3,845 posted on 12/29/2014 8:03:12 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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To: Syncro; CynicalBear; boatbums
Interesting you bringing that information as I understand the battle for this among catholics has been going on for some time.......the idea being how to make it palatable to it's membership and those outside their religion they want to pull in without offending them by claiming this.

I do believe because the great apostasy is already underway, and the deception is growing larger throughout the world that by the time the catholic leadership DO name her as the official Co-Redeemer, equal to Christ...the world will be already prepped to believe it.

Many false religions have a female entity in their belief system....so it will be like hand in glove when the time comes for the catholic leadership to lead the way to the One World Religion ...with that mary of the catholic religion more than likely will unite the religions on common ground since she could easily be found “attractive” by the religions already sold on female deities.

None of what is and will take place has anything to do with true Christianity, rather as it does today it will immitate and counterfeit it.

The enemy of the truth is not falshood...rather it's the Almost truth.

3,864 posted on 12/29/2014 8:25:00 PM PST by caww
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To: Syncro

Your post 3845 on Mary possibly being 4th part of trinity.......wow. The blasphemy was amazing.


3,891 posted on 12/29/2014 9:16:11 PM PST by ealgeone
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