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To: rwa265; caww; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie

This is true. As stated in Paragraph 2674 of the Catechism: “Jesus, the only mediator, is the way of our prayer.”


Then by what justification do you call Mary “Co-Redemtrix?”


3,801 posted on 12/29/2014 6:42:50 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; rwa265; caww; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie
This is true. As stated in Paragraph 2674 of the Catechism: “Jesus, the only mediator, is the way of our prayer.”

Then by what justification do you call Mary “Co-Redemtrix?”

Are you kidding....they're wanting to promote this to be an "official" dogma of the church! They are petitioning the pope to make this happen now.

Give it time and Mary will soon replace her Son as the one providing salvation. In "The Glories of Mary" (18th c) we already see this idea expressed.

Fly, oh Adam, oh Eve, and ye their children, who have offended God ; fly and take refuge in the bosom of this good mother. Do you not know that she is the only city of refuge, and the only hope of sinners ?| As St. Augustine has called her, The only hope of sinners :

Hence St. Ephrem says: Thou art the only advocate of sinners, and of those who are deprived of every help; and he thus salutes her: Hail! refuge and retreat of sinners, to whom alone they can flee with confidence.!

If St. Antoninus relates that a sinner finding himself in disgrace before God, imagined himself standing before the tribunal of Jesus Christ : the devil was accusing him and Mary defending him. The enemy presented against this poor criminal the catalogue of his offences, which, placed in the balance of divine justice far outweighed his good works ; but what then did his great advocate do ? She extended her kind hand and placed it in the other scale; it descended in favor of her suppliant, and thus it was given him to understand, that she would obtain his pardon if he would change his life; and, indeed, after that vision he was converted and changed his life.

http://archive.org/stream/thegloriesofmary00liguuoft/thegloriesofmary00liguuoft_djvu.txt

For what it's worth, Islam also believes in a scale where your good and bad works will be evaluated.

3,824 posted on 12/29/2014 7:31:54 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

While there are some bishops who call Mary “Co-Redemptrix,” this term is not found in the Catechism. Mary is referred to as Mediatrix, but only in the sense that she intercedes for us to Jesus. Nowhere does the Catechism state that Mary intercedes to the Father. It is Jesus and Jesus alone who is our Mediator to the Father.


3,827 posted on 12/29/2014 7:40:26 PM PST by rwa265
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