you have to be kidding....If Noah, getting drunk was a sin, the Jesus, making a bunch of wine LATE IN THE WEDDING PARTY was intentionally leading people into sin.
John did, indeed, realize that the world was full of sin but that in no way implied that ALL the people in the world were sinners.
Kiddies???????not a chance that a just God would consider kiddie behavior sinful.
You never did mention the mentally deficient...a person aged 40 with the I.Q. of a 2 year old can sin????? Please, I'm certain that God considers them among the chosen, even if they have no idea or concept of who He is.
you have to be kidding....If Noah, getting drunk was a sin, the Jesus, making a bunch of wine LATE IN THE WEDDING PARTY was intentionally leading people into sin.
Multiple verses on being drunk is a sin and you ignore them. Amazing.
Let's talk about the wedding.
The people were already drunk if you read the passage. Jesus was not intentionally leading people into sin. He never causes us to sin. The Word is clear on that.
Jesus also hung out with sinners. Is He making them sin??
John did, indeed, realize that the world was full of sin but that in no way implied that ALL the people in the world were sinners.
I John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Believe the Word or doubt the Word. Your choice.
Kiddies???????not a chance that a just God would consider kiddie behavior sinful.
You never did mention the mentally deficient...a person aged 40 with the I.Q. of a 2 year old can sin????? Please, I'm certain that God considers them among the chosen, even if they have no idea or concept of who He is.
Let's keep this in mind as we discuss this.
Romans 5:12-14
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
Let's be sure we are talking about people who are capable of cognizant thought and those who aren't.
The Bible is not clear on this and theologians have debated this one.
We do have the age of accountability that is covered in the article below.
The one passage that seems to identify with this topic more than any other is 2 Samuel 12:21–23. The context of these verses is that King David committed adultery with Bathsheba, with a resulting pregnancy. The prophet Nathan was sent by the Lord to inform David that, because of his sin, the Lord would take the child in death. David responded to this by grieving and praying for the child. But once the child was taken, David’s mourning ended. David’s servants were surprised to hear this. They said to King David, “What is this thing that you have done? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept; but when the child died, you arose and ate food.” David’s response was, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, ‘Who knows, the LORD may be gracious to me, that the child may live.’ But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.” David’s response indicates that those who cannot believe are safe in the Lord. David said that he could go to the child but could not bring the child back to him. Also, and just as important, David seemed to be comforted by this knowledge. In other words, David seemed to be saying that he would see his baby son (in heaven), though he could not bring him back.
Although it is possible that God applies Christ’s payment for sin to those who cannot believe, the Bible does not specifically say that He does this. Therefore, this is a subject about which we should not be adamant or dogmatic. God’s applying Christ’s death to those who cannot believe would seem consistent with His love and mercy. It is our position that God applies Christ’s payment for sin to babies and those who are mentally handicapped, since they are not mentally capable of understanding their sinful state and their need for the Savior, but again we cannot be dogmatic. Of this we are certain: God is loving, holy, merciful, just, and gracious. Whatever God does is always right and good, and He loves children even more than we do.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/age-of-accountability.html#ixzz3MDEey0zC
With all that said, the Greek in Luke 1:28 does not support the immaculate conception. Catholic apologists admit so.