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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; CynicalBear; EagleOne
Mary is Jesus’ mother, and the Queen of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom. She is the Queen of Heaven. See the Bible.

You left out this passage in the Bible about the Queen of Heaven, Jeremiah chapters 7 and 44 are the ONLY places where the term, Queen of Heaven, is found and it is NEVER about Mary but a false goddess that got the Jews in BIG trouble with God:

    “Therefore this is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: I am determined to bring disaster on you and to destroy all Judah. I will take away the remnant of Judah who were determined to go to Egypt to settle there. They will all perish in Egypt; they will fall by the sword or die from famine. From the least to the greatest, they will die by sword or famine. They will become a curse and an object of horror, a curse and an object of reproach. I will punish those who live in Egypt with the sword, famine and plague, as I punished Jerusalem. None of the remnant of Judah who have gone to live in Egypt will escape or survive to return to the land of Judah, to which they long to return and live; none will return except a few fugitives.”

    Then all the men who knew that their wives were burning incense to other gods, along with all the women who were present—a large assembly—and all the people living in Lower and Upper Egypt, said to Jeremiah, “We will not listen to the message you have spoken to us in the name of the Lord! We will certainly do everything we said we would: We will burn incense to the Queen of Heaven and will pour out drink offerings to her just as we and our ancestors, our kings and our officials did in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. At that time we had plenty of food and were well off and suffered no harm. But ever since we stopped burning incense to the Queen of Heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have had nothing and have been perishing by sword and famine.”

    The women added, “When we burned incense to the Queen of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know that we were making cakes impressed with her image and pouring out drink offerings to her?”

    Then Jeremiah said to all the people, both men and women, who were answering him, “Did not the Lord remember and call to mind the incense burned in the towns of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem by you and your ancestors, your kings and your officials and the people of the land? When the Lord could no longer endure your wicked actions and the detestable things you did, your land became a curse and a desolate waste without inhabitants, as it is today. Because you have burned incense and have sinned against the Lord and have not obeyed him or followed his law or his decrees or his stipulations, this disaster has come upon you, as you now see.”

    Then Jeremiah said to all the people, including the women, “Hear the word of the Lord, all you people of Judah in Egypt. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: You and your wives have done what you said you would do when you promised, ‘We will certainly carry out the vows we made to burn incense and pour out drink offerings to the Queen of Heaven.’

    “Go ahead then, do what you promised! Keep your vows! But hear the word of the Lord, all you Jews living in Egypt: ‘I swear by my great name,’ says the Lord, ‘that no one from Judah living anywhere in Egypt will ever again invoke my name or swear, “As surely as the Sovereign Lord lives.” For I am watching over them for harm, not for good; the Jews in Egypt will perish by sword and famine until they are all destroyed. Those who escape the sword and return to the land of Judah from Egypt will be very few. Then the whole remnant of Judah who came to live in Egypt will know whose word will stand—mine or theirs. (Jeremiah 44:11-28)


1,320 posted on 12/16/2014 9:13:04 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
Well, I love Mary and she loves me, and you.

And I figure that false claimants to a title don't show that the title is false but that they are false.

And, really how apposite! The young girl of a backwater of a province, so utterly opposite to both the Mediterranean Hera and Aphrodite. No cosmic majesty, no erotic power, hardly any intrinsic power at all! Just the divine gift to say the “Yes,” that we often struggle to say. And so again, the weak are set over the strong, the lowly are lifted up, and Astarte and her demons are cast down from their seats and their false honors.

1,325 posted on 12/16/2014 9:24:05 PM PST by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: boatbums; St_Thomas_Aquinas; EagleOne
>>‘We will certainly carry out the vows we made to burn incense and pour out drink offerings to the Queen of Heaven.’<<

And that is still exactly what Catholics say today.

1,363 posted on 12/17/2014 6:19:01 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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