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To: BlueDragon

Yet 77.4% think a person can be a good Catholic Without obeying the Church hierarchy’s teaching on birth control.

I just realized the answer to 63) Q12D is missing:
Can a person be a good Catholic: Without obeying the Church hierarchy’s teaching regarding abortion?
1) Yes, can be a good Catholic 857 59.4
2) No, cannot be a good Catholic 562 39.0


32 posted on 12/13/2014 1:39:11 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
...and

There are more than a mere few here on FR -- who blame the entire mess on "Protestants" (whoever those people are) including (get this) pointing fingers of blame at the principle of solo scriptura, itself --blaming THAT for the culture we live in being increasingly falling away from God, becoming increasingly immoral.

Taking the written Scriptures as authoritative and truth, superlative to the traditions which arose either; chiefly, or only in part from the Holy Writ --- is the real problem --- according to more than a few of our FRomish FRiends, as for that one narrow point (sola scriptura).

Do they not know that when they take that position, they (those FRomans) are in tacit agreement with the most noisily ungodly of our present day society, from the not-so-noisy but underwhelming & disappointing lukewarm Christians who say they believe, but for whom the Gospels can scarcely said to have been trans-formative, to the agnostic who says they accept the apparent wisdom of the moral teachings to be only that, moral teachings which are rooted quite likely in not much more than superstition & myth, all the way down the list to the militant atheist ---for most all of those groups speak daily against the principle of Scripture being superlative over all, blaming religion and the Bible (in the case of the Roman Catholic perhaps -- sola scriptura not among his own religion's traditions --as those of his own "tradition" often assert) as a primary & major cause of all of mankind's present downfallen and overall sinful condition?

The Law revived and I died? Ok, I get it, it slays me too. Things truly are, tough all over...

It's too bad so few (speaking here of the culture more widely) appear to be able grasp more fully what Paul the Apostle meant by that, and what else he was presenting as the cure. It must be spiritually discerned, perhaps?

I mean...one can get most of it as mental exercise...but for the Word to work down within a soul, the Spirit using that even deep within an individual to strike at the roots of whatever sin there be which could found there, the Word of God sharper than any two-edged sword dividing even between the bone and the marrow --- that is no mere mental and moral set of principles and exercises.

One can go quite far with it perhaps, while still lacking much in the way of depth of spirit concerning these things, yet that results in there being an outside set of Law hovering over an individual --rather than working from within.

To that we say; one simply must be born again. (John 3:5)

Somehow, it's the bible believer's fault?

Society increasingly rejects allowing the Scriptures be as lamp to light our paths --- and somehow it's all the fault of those whom emphasize those same Scriptures? -- instead of those whom distance themselves from the same???

How does that really work, anyway?


33 posted on 12/13/2014 4:30:03 AM PST by BlueDragon (I could see sound,love,and the soundsetme Free,but youwerenot listening,so could not see)
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