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To: nicmarlo; CynicalBear; terycarl
I am pretty sure you will find people in both Catholic and non-Catholic congregations who actually have not accepted Jesus as their Personal Savior (or the equivalent whether or not they use those words.) These will be people who are not, in fact, disciples, do not practice personal prayer, and have not given their lives over to Christ.

I have noticed that in the Lives of the Saints, so many of them needed to have adult conversion experiences, even though they had been raised in the Church.

St. Benedict, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Ignatius, Bartolome de Las Casas (and of course Augustine, St. Elizabeth Seton, Newman and Chesterton, who in mid-life encountered Christ in a much more immediate way)-- they all became solidly committed Catholics after they had a really up-close-and-personal contact with Our Savior Himself. This resulted in their living their whole lives for Jesus Christ Our Lord.

We no longer have a Christian culture. One of the pluses of a "Christian culture" is that many people are exposed to virtuous cultural practices which keep them from reverting to habitual vice, or at least they are culturally "warned" that there is danger in sin, and they are steered by local customs toward the Gospel.

But one of the less-than-good aspects of a Christian Culture is that many people follow along more from conformism or inertia than from conviction. Some people seemingly have to lie sick in a dungeon as a prisoner of war or take a cannonball to the knee before they really realize that God has come with power, God claims them and God ain't into compromise.

1,728 posted on 12/14/2014 8:11:48 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Since the world's creation,GodÂ’s eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen.- Rom 1:20)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Absolutely. Heaven is not obtained but going through the Door, one by one. The Door is Christ.

It’s entry is simple but not given through one’s geneology, ancestry, works education or church attendance (or non-attendance). Christ laid it out and the Apostle Paul explains it further.

There will be a great many surprises as to whom has been let in.


1,732 posted on 12/14/2014 8:37:06 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mrs. Don-o; nicmarlo; terycarl; metmom; boatbums

Well said. A couple of thoughts. Scripture refers to all believers as saints. Also the comment “committed Catholics” is dangerous for any true believer. The warnings to the churches in Revelation indicate that their are true and faithful believers in each of those churches but they are still warned to change what they are practising. It would also be wise for Catholics (and those in all churches) to watch as the Catholic Church works to unite all religions into one. That will be the “come out of her my people” religion.


1,733 posted on 12/14/2014 8:42:13 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Oh, I heard a statistic this week: about 9/10 of those who have accepted Christ as their Savior are in their teens. So while it is a statistical impossibility that an adult comes to know the Lord and accept Him as their Savior, God is still in the business of impossibilities and the Holy Spirit still can get through to whomsoever God the Father has called.

You are correct, we certainly do not now live in a Christian culture. It’s more akin to the Days of Noah, there is wickedness and violence in the hearts of man continually (including perversity of all kinds).


1,734 posted on 12/14/2014 8:43:20 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But one of the less-than-good aspects of a Christian Culture is that many people follow along more from conformism or inertia than from conviction. Some people seemingly have to lie sick in a dungeon as a prisoner of war or take a cannonball to the knee before they really realize that God has come with power, God claims them and God ain't into compromise.

I agree. I'm reminded of the saying, "Sometimes you have to be flat on your back before you look up."

2,003 posted on 12/14/2014 10:16:44 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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